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Terragon · 01-17-10, 06:32 PM

I think there is a general consensus that the first thirty minutes of SPR was the only part of the movie that really matters.

I thought Apocalypse Now was WAY too overblown. Even more overblown than FMJ, if such a thing is possible.

As for We Were Soldiers, the only guy I liked was the Sergeant-Major. My Chief was almost exactly like that. Just a tough mother that did not take anything from anybody. He was a good drinker too. One night, I remember him getting so tossed, he jumped up on the table and solved all the military's problems including solutions such as killing the politicians, bitch slapping the commissioned officers, and for some reason, lawyers in general should have their arms cut off, and the entire Middle East, including Israel, should be bombed with B-52's and we should take all the oil for ourselves.

And when he was finished, we gave him a standing ovation.

Ah, good times in the Air Force.

August · 01-17-10, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Yes, I claim that the commander did not step off and on the helicopter in slow motion to pompous music. I also find it hard to believe they timed that flyby in real life.

Yeah the battle and the training period that led up to it took a heckuva lot longer that just 138 minutes too. At some point every film maker is forced to summarize events in order to tell the story. That doesn't make it propaganda though or you might as well add Das Boot and every other movie to that list too.

August · 01-17-10, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Of course it's ok to have a US flag at the beginning of SPR. And it was equally ok for the Germans to make movies about Jewish people before and during WW 2. They made perfect sense also.

You really are a piece of work.

stabiz · 01-17-10, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Yeah the battle and the training period that led up to it took a heckuva lot longer that just 138 minutes too. At some point every film maker is forced to summarize events in order to tell the story. That doesn't make it propaganda though or you might as well add Das Boot and every other movie to that list too.

Its not about summarizing, to be anal its about making something last longer than it actually did. But most of all its about going over the top and making scenes that make people look away. I never said WWS is propaganda, I said its bad, its almost a caricature of war. It fails in some of the same areas as The Patriot. (Although it does not suck as wildly as that movie does)

My likes:

Das Boot
Stalingrad
Band of Brothers (really looking forward to the next one)
All the shooting in Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line
Black Hawk Down (it has its moments)
Master and Commander

I think its time for a huge and expensive war drama from WW2 Africa. Imagine what they could do with the budget of those Transformers movies.

TarJak · 01-17-10, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Hmmm...I'm looking forward to the Pacific version of BoB. I thought it had already aired in Australia? That would mean it would be available on the interwebs via...alternative means.

Not yet it airs this year though. I understand it was to have been aired here in 2009 but something in the deal between Seven Network here in Austraila with HBO in the US means that HBO gets it first in March 2010.

I'm looking forward to it as well. Quite big chunks of the production were filmed in Australia and it as part funded by Seven Network.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-17-10, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Not yet it airs this year though. I understand it was to have been aired here in 2009 but something in the deal between Seven Network here in Austraila with HBO in the US means that HBO gets it first in March 2010.

I'm looking forward to it as well. Quite big chunks of the production were filmed in Australia and it as part funded by Seven Network.

I guess it makes sense that a lot of the production would be in Australia. The Philippines would also make sense. Wasn't principal photography done YEARS ago?

EDIT: I suppose I could google, but that runs the risk of spoilage. Well, I know what happens to one of the primary "characters."

Platapus · 01-18-10, 05:52 PM

Anyone see the movie "the Beast" (the one about the soviet tank)?

And if you did, what did you think of it?

I thought it was an interesting insight into the Soviet AF campaign.

August · 01-18-10, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Anyone see the movie "the Beast" (the one about the soviet tank)?

And if you did, what did you think of it?

I thought it was an interesting insight into the Soviet AF campaign.

That was a pretty good movie and the only one besides Rambo III (yech) which deals with that conflict that I know of.

Platapus · 01-18-10, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by August

That was a pretty good movie and the only one besides Rambo III (yech) which deals with that conflict that I know of.

Yeah "Pretty good" is a good rating for this movie.

Although that "squishing the guy with the tank tread" was a creepy scene.

August · 01-18-10, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Yeah "Pretty good" is a good rating for this movie.

Although that "squishing the guy with the tank tread" was a creepy scene.

My ankles hurt just thinking about it.

Platapus · 01-18-10, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by August

My ankles hurt just thinking about it.

Is that what they mean by Flat Feet disqualifying one for service?

August · 01-18-10, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Is that what they mean by Flat Feet disqualifying one for service?

He's got nothing to be tankful about, that's for sure...

Platapus · 01-18-10, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by August

He's got nothing to be tankful about, that's for sure...

I am sure that we can all come up with a really bad pun involving the term "don't tread on me".

But let's not and say we did.

XabbaRus · 01-24-10, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

...and has a typical German ending.

(good film though)

@xabbarus; which Russian warfilms do you like?

Just noticed this one.

9th Company is Good. First Russian film that deals with Afghanistan, and in a way that portrays it as a waste of a bunch of young mens' lives.

Zorya Zdes' Tikhaya - OK could be classed as propoganda but it is well filmed, acted and tragic.

72 metres - Not exactly a war film but good anyway.

Admiral - About Kolchak though the TV mini series that the film is created out of is better.

I'll have to look at what else is in my collection.

01-17-10, 06:32 PM	#76
Terragon Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: A few meters away from the Challenger Deep Posts: 49 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I think there is a general consensus that the first thirty minutes of SPR was the only part of the movie that really matters. I thought Apocalypse Now was WAY too overblown. Even more overblown than FMJ, if such a thing is possible. As for We Were Soldiers, the only guy I liked was the Sergeant-Major. My Chief was almost exactly like that. Just a tough mother that did not take anything from anybody. He was a good drinker too. One night, I remember him getting so tossed, he jumped up on the table and solved all the military's problems including solutions such as killing the politicians, bitch slapping the commissioned officers, and for some reason, lawyers in general should have their arms cut off, and the entire Middle East, including Israel, should be bombed with B-52's and we should take all the oil for ourselves. And when he was finished, we gave him a standing ovation. Ah, good times in the Air Force. __________________ Men may battle over the Atlantic, but the sea belongs to no one... Except the dead.

01-18-10, 05:52 PM	#82
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,391 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Anyone see the movie "the Beast" (the one about the soviet tank)? And if you did, what did you think of it? I thought it was an interesting insight into the Soviet AF campaign. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.