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Originally Posted by TarJak

I thought the opening scene in the cemetery in Normandy was actually way too sentimental and had no real surround sound effects. The second scene when you see the landing on the other hand was not too badly done and the sound effects with a good surround system were excellent.

Oh yea the effing flag waving. And again in the end. And there's August claiming there's no propaganda in the movie.

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Oh yea the effing flag waving. And again in the end. And there's August claiming there's no propaganda in the movie.

I never claimed that. I disagreed with the idea that the battle scenes were depicted as "heroic cake walks". Do try to keep up.

Originally Posted by August

I never claimed that. I disagreed with the idea that the battle scenes were depicted as "heroic cake walks". Do try to keep up.

So you like propaganda movies?

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Oh yea the effing flag waving. And again in the end. And there's August claiming there's no propaganda in the movie.

Right. Why would there be an American flag flying over a cemetery maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission containing almost entirely American servicemen? At the beginning and end of a war movie following American soldiers, showing them being killed and horribly maimed. Really, it makes MUCH more sense to show, say, the flag of Bhutan.

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Right. Why would there be an American flag flying over a cemetery maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission containing almost entirely American servicemen? At the beginning and end of a war movie following American soldiers, showing them being killed and horribly maimed. Really, it makes MUCH more sense to show, say, the flag of Bhutan.

Of course it's ok to have a US flag at the beginning of SPR. And it was equally ok for the Germans to make movies about Jewish people before and during WW 2. They made perfect sense also.

[Skybird]

Most popular war movies I do not like. Those that I liked, are:

A thin red Line (strange that nobody mentioned it so far)
Das Boot
Die Brücke
Band of Brothers (much better than Private Ryan)
Apocalypse Now

Two popular but very overestimated movies, imo, are Kubrick'S Full Metal Jacket (although I like three of his movies very much, this is none of them), and Platoon.

Many war movies suffer from one of two things, or both: they are entertaining for the sake of being entertaining, and/or they are ridiculously pathetic.

Both makes mockery of the dead.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Most popular war movies I do not like. Those that I liked, are:

A thin red Line (strange that nobody mentioned it so far)
Das Boot
Die Brücke
Band of Brothers (much better than Private Ryan)
Apocalypse Now

Two popular but very overestimated movies, imo, are Kubrick'S Full Metal Jacket (although I like three of his movies very much, this is none of them), and Platoon.

Many war movies suffer from one of two things, or both: they are entertaining for the sake of being entertaining, and/or they are ridiculously pathetic.

Both makes mockery of the dead.

Good choices. One war movie that had the greatest impact on me was Schindler's List. I've seen so much battle footage, both real and Hollywood style, that's not interesting. I really enjoy the ones that tell us about the people and what they went through, like SL, BoB, and Das Boot.

Looking forward to Pacific. I just hope it's done with the same quality as Brothers. My father served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. All of his WWII time was in the Pacific so I'm really looking forward to this one.

[Platapus]

Anyone see the movie "the Beast" (the one about the soviet tank)?

And if you did, what did you think of it?

I thought it was an interesting insight into the Soviet AF campaign.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Anyone see the movie "the Beast" (the one about the soviet tank)?

And if you did, what did you think of it?

I thought it was an interesting insight into the Soviet AF campaign.

That was a pretty good movie and the only one besides Rambo III (yech) which deals with that conflict that I know of.

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Of course it's ok to have a US flag at the beginning of SPR. And it was equally ok for the Germans to make movies about Jewish people before and during WW 2. They made perfect sense also.

You really are a piece of work.