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Old 01-16-10, 11:49 AM   #1
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Well it's all propaganda to an extent, especially the big productions like BoB and Ryan. I guess people can say that they like a certain production over another but it's all subjective.

Even if you were to take a film camera to a real war and film it would still be a slanted view depending on where in the battlefield you are filming and what you are filming etc.
OTH, people can point at a pig and call it a duck but that don't make it an accurate identification.

The word "propaganda" implies government involvement and direction with the writing and production, and not just with technical details like what rifle or uniform is correct for the time period being portrayed but rather controlling the storyline itself to generate a particular impression on the countries involved. This does not happen in BoB. The government did not tell Ambrose what to write or Spielberg what to film.
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OTH, people can point at a pig and call it a duck but that don't make it an accurate identification.

The word "propaganda" implies government involvement and direction with the writing and production, and not just with technical details like what rifle or uniform is correct for the time period being portrayed but rather controlling the storyline itself to generate a particular impression on the countries involved. This does not happen in BoB. The government did not tell Ambrose what to write or Spielberg what to film.
So what you're saying is that it's 'mild' propaganda? They do have an agenda, the producers and financiers of present day Hollywood movies, just follow the money and you may find it.
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So what you're saying is that it's 'mild' propaganda? They do have an agenda, the producers and financiers of present day Hollywood movies, just follow the money and you may find it.
Ah I see, so you have no real clue, just a general belief that the evil US governments tentacles must be involved somehow in anything that remotely portrays my country or my people in a favorable manner.

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Ah I see, so you have no real clue, just a general belief that the evil US governments tentacles must be involved somehow in anything that remotely portrays my country or my people in a favorable manner.

Message understood.
No you clearly misunderstood, possible due to low brain wattage or some other similar reason. Propagandistic messages aren't created and delivered only by nations, private companies and corporations also take part in the creation of propaganda.
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No you clearly misunderstood, possible due to low brain wattage or some other similar reason. Propagandistic messages aren't created and delivered only by nations, private companies and corporations also take part in the creation of propaganda.
Obviously we work from different dictionaries.
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