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Stalingrad was done fairly well.

[Dowly]

Ah, Stalingrad was great.

[XabbaRus]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Stalingrad was done fairly well.

Stalingrad is a German film too. Only the Germans could make a great film out of a battle where they got wiped out.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Stalingrad is a German film too. Only the Germans could make a great film out of a battle where they got wiped out.

...and has a typical German ending. (good film though)

@xabbarus; which Russian warfilms do you like?

[Catfish]

Hello,
us germans also have some alert levels, from XabbaRus in another post:

"> The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful
> Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also
> have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose". "

Hehe sad endings have a tradition here, we are always working on perfecting those traditions and what we began. To be german means to do something for the sake of itself

B.t.w. I only meant this "propaganda" to be found in "Private Ryan", not "Band of Brothers" - and prop. is most probably not the right word, but PRyan makes the invasion and the figthing in Normandy look like a cake walk and heroic in a Hollywood way. And is there any real (non Hollywood) evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war, not mentioning sending out a unit to save him ?

Greetings,
Catfish

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hello,
us germans also have some alert levels, from XabbaRus in another post:

"> The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful
> Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also
> have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose". "

Hehe sad endings have a tradition here, we are always working on perfecting those traditions and what we began. To be german means to do something for the sake of itself

B.t.w. I only meant this "propaganda" to be found in "Private Ryan", not "Band of Brothers" - and prop. is most probably not the right word, but PRyan makes the invasion and the figthing in Normandy look like a cake walk and heroic in a Hollywood way. And is there any real (non Hollywood) evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war, not mentioning sending out a unit to save him ?

Greetings,
Catfish

Maybe hollywood hoopla.

evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war

There is, but I doubt they would pull a ranger squad away from the invasion to go look for them.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

but PRyan makes the invasion and the figthing in Normandy look like a cake walk and heroic in a Hollywood way.

That's amazing, did we even see the same movie? How can you describe the beach landing scene, or indeed any of the movies battle scenes, as a "cake walk"? In nearly every they lost people, and not in heroic ways either but bloody and horrific ways.

I saw Ryan when it came out in the movies. With a good surround sound system the opening scene was pretty good, and didn't have the usual CGI-overflow that many present day movies have.

However upon recent viewing I began to notice those 'cute' Spielberg-moments and the visceral impact of the opening scene had gone and I just remembered why he should stick to making movies about fluffy space aliens and the sort.

[Catfish]

Hello NikiMcBee,

You wrote:

" ... Maybe hollywood hoopla.
Quote:
' evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war '

There is, but I doubt they would pull a ranger squad away from the invasion to go look for them. ... "

I certainly meant sending out a ranger squad, not that they would not care about their dead soldiers, my fault sorry !

@August:
I still think that how the brave inspired US troops fought against this thoroughly villain, but however "helpless SS" doomed to lose, was not how it really was, as far as i read it was much more gruesome - both sides - but then you probably do not want to show this in a film.

Greetings,
Catfish

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I saw Ryan when it came out in the movies. With a good surround sound system the opening scene was pretty good,

I thought the opening scene in the cemetery in Normandy was actually way too sentimental and had no real surround sound effects. The second scene when you see the landing on the other hand was not too badly done and the sound effects with a good surround system were excellent.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by August

That's amazing, did we even see the same movie? How can you describe the beach landing scene, or indeed any of the movies battle scenes, as a "cake walk"? In nearly every they lost people, and not in heroic ways either but bloody and horrific ways.

okay, here we go; game on: Ryan vs BoB


beach part 2


Spielberg hollywood part: (look at all those tigers) all of these parts remind me more of a video game.





BoB:
(the luger part really happened: you stoopid mick)




Why I like BoB more and it wins hands down:

[August]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

okay, here we go; game on: Ryan vs BoB

Game over before it even started. As a former Paratrooper I am biased to BoB over those leg Rangers in SPR.

[XabbaRus]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

...and has a typical German ending. (good film though)

@xabbarus; which Russian warfilms do you like?

Just noticed this one.

9th Company is Good. First Russian film that deals with Afghanistan, and in a way that portrays it as a waste of a bunch of young mens' lives.

Zorya Zdes' Tikhaya - OK could be classed as propoganda but it is well filmed, acted and tragic.

72 metres - Not exactly a war film but good anyway.

Admiral - About Kolchak though the TV mini series that the film is created out of is better.

I'll have to look at what else is in my collection.