Getting a 'sinking' feeling about SH5

[Adriatico]

I promised to keep away from SHV forum for two months... but you forced me to open my mouth just one more time:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I can't see how you can get a sinking feeling about a game based on a handful of screenshots and a couple of short promotional videos that show limited game detail and none of the options menu screens.

That statement is in no way intended to muzzle anyone who disagrees. I just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released, and not judge it based on glimpses of the game probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs.

What is it... that you can't see?
He get a feeling based on screenshots and promotional videos. So what is he supposed to get?
He never mentioned a final judgment.
These screenshots and videos are made to rise impressions and feelings - and have no other purpose... so it is the most logical thing in this world: if you release promotional video on web - to bare impressions and feelings

"...and none of the options menu screens."
Do you think that "menu screens" would propose to you:
- to move periscope from far right to central position ?
- to remove cartoonish white outline from pointed parts of interior ?
- ...etc

"just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released"
Of course, we should... but when you get it on your hard disc - you can change zero (0)
This is a "last minute" desperate attempt to point out some features that we (final users) feel as wrong... provided that Devs care about it ?

"...probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs"
What difference does it make who has released them ?
Marketing is just presenting what Devs made...

If we should rise our impressions when the game is released... what is purpose of this SHV forum... opened months before release ?

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

I promised to keep away from SHV forum for two months... but you forced me to open my mouth just one more time:


What is it... that you can't see?
He get a feeling based on screenshots and promotional videos. So what is he supposed to get?
He never mentioned a final judgment.
These screenshots and videos are made to rise impressions and feelings - and have no other purpose... so it is the most logical thing in this world: if you release promotional video on web - to bare impressions and feelings

"...and none of the options menu screens."
Do you think that "menu screens" would propose to you:
- to move periscope from far right to central position ?
- to remove cartoonish white outline from pointed parts of interior ?
- ...etc

"just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released"
Of course, we should... but when you get it on your hard disc - you can change zero (0)
This is a "last minute" desperate attempt to point out some features that we (final users) feel as wrong... provided that Devs care about it ?

"...probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs"
What difference does it make who has released them ?
Marketing is just presenting what Devs made...

If we should rise our impressions when the game is released... what is purpose of this SHV forum... opened months before release ?

Oh come sir, its not for the want of complaints thus far it is quite simply a question of, IS IT JUSTIFIED AT THIS STAGE to complain, can they be immplemented as now!! now now and after, so close to release?? thank you

[Jimbuna]

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

No kiddin.

Whew thats a lot of drama for an opinion thread.

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

No kiddin.

Whew thats a lot of drama for an opinion thread.

lol i can confirm sir that i will hold firm on my opinions, as for real drama you seek, one should push on and aquaint friends in immersion immersion immersion thread there sir i believe you may gain some kind of favour, and indulge in trivial chit chat, oh and might i remind you sir, you perhaps will find it in this here forum, and not General Topics, all to which is scarcley saved by the title. good day.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by 4Para

lol i can confirm sir that i will hold firm on my opinions, as for real drama you seek, one should push on and aquaint friends in immersion immersion immersion thread there sir i believe you may gain some kind of favour, and indulge in trivial chit chat, oh and might i remind you sir, you perhaps will find it in this here forum, and not General Topics, all to which is scarcley saved by the title. good day.

Ummm what?

Yea I need to post in GT someday

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

I promised to keep away from SHV forum for two months... but you forced me to open my mouth just one more time:


What is it... that you can't see?
He get a feeling based on screenshots and promotional videos. So what is he supposed to get?
He never mentioned a final judgment.
These screenshots and videos are made to rise impressions and feelings - and have no other purpose... so it is the most logical thing in this world: if you release promotional video on web - to bare impressions and feelings

"...and none of the options menu screens."
Do you think that "menu screens" would propose to you:
- to move periscope from far right to central position ?
- to remove cartoonish white outline from pointed parts of interior ?
- ...etc

"just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released"
Of course, we should... but when you get it on your hard disc - you can change zero (0)
This is a "last minute" desperate attempt to point out some features that we (final users) feel as wrong... provided that Devs care about it ?

"...probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs"
What difference does it make who has released them ?
Marketing is just presenting what Devs made...

If we should rise our impressions when the game is released... what is purpose of this SHV forum... opened months before release ?

OK. Several points. Firstly, your statement "we (final users)". Understand that Ubisoft as a Publisher is not at all interested in pleasing this forum or others like it. We represent hard core simmers, and in terms of sales, if you put all of the SHV forums together you will get a figure of under ten percent of total sales of the product. Not only that, but the sales are guaranteed. Although there may be one or two 'ranting hold outs', the vast majority of people here will buy the game as soon as it is available and then hope that it can be modded to their liking during the year that follows. Ubisoft is well aware of this fact. They are not going to waste any time preaching to the choir.

Second point: It's important to understand that once a game is within two months of release, Marketing is running the show. The reason I made that distinction in my post relating to the released videos is because of the way that marketing guys think. What we would look for from a promotional video is one that depicts the game at a very high level of realism. To Marketing, that's the last thing they want. They want to pitch to people who may never have purchased a sub sim before. They want all the pretty, colorful pictures they can get in the video, and in SHV that means enabling all of the visual help screens and lowering the realism levels way down. That's why it's nonsense to assess promotional videos of the game as a hard core simmer when the videos are targeted at the casual gamer.

One contributor to this thread has Beta tested the game, and I will watch any further contribution from him with interest.

[longam]

ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS AND NOT ENOUGH TIME ! ! !

Welease Bwian!

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

Welease Bwian!

Swentuwion, do we hwave a Bwian in ouwe pwizen?

BTW, does anyone feel that March is just too soon?
From current dev Q&A one would expect a game in this state to be out in late summer, not early spring.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

BTW, does anyone feel that March is just too soon?

Agreed.

On amazon.com they say march 2, only 7 weeks from now... and we didn't see very much of it.

[Reece]

Also agree, hope they iron out all the bugs, don't care if there's less content!!