[Mission Editor] AI doesn't react

there is something with detection in the game so if things are spawned already within range then the AI wont "see" them since they arent "new" contacts and then the game ignores them as they would any known contact you are already aware of.

in other words the game acts as thou you have told it to ignore them, if its not auto detected by the AI then the AI wont engage to attack


move your ships farther back so they "come into range" and they will then detect each other and act as they should

also have a look at the "missions" forum and there are links to help you with mission building tips

[Asakura]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

there is something with detection in the game so if things are spawned already within range then the AI wont "see" them since they arent "new" contacts and then the game ignores them as they would any known contact you are already aware of.

in other words the game acts as thou you have told it to ignore them, if its not auto detected by the AI then the AI wont engage to attack


move your ships farther back so they "come into range" and they will then detect each other and act as they should

Hmmm but why does the warship in my first test mission fire at me when I surface right in front of it? I am only like 1000m ahead of it (periscope depth as well), and when I surface, it evades and fires. Since I am that close, it wouldn't fire if the "being in range of sight"-problem was the case here. Or is it because I started in periscope depth?

I just modified my mission to the situation that my sub still starts in range of sight (about 7500m) with the japanese taskforce, but this time I started it off in a depth of 30m. I started the mission and drove towards the taskforce with full speed ahead. I recognized the destroyers breaking slightly out of formation, so they somewhat reacted to me this time (which is a big improvement already ^^). But still, none of the japanese ships opened fire when I surfaced?
So I guess I really have to start outside of range of sight and - most likely - dived? But how much distance does it approximately have to be? Since I want this mission to be multiplayer-cooperative and there's no way to speed up the game speed, it might take a long time to reach the taskforce. Do you know anything about a "minimum" distance?

also have a look at the "missions" forum and there are links to help you with mission building tips

I can't find a "missions"-forum here in the forum overview. Would you be so nice and give me a link to that section?

Thanks alot so far for your advice!! Hopefully I can get this mission to work soon.

EDIT: @peabody: Just read your post after I finished this answer. ^^ Thank you for your help as well. Actually, my mission indeed is dated before Japan and the US declared war! O.O My mission was like 6 months too early. Good Lord, if that's the problem I'm seriously gonna bite in my table...

EDIT #2: OH - MY - GOD!! peabody was absolutely right! My mission date was set six months before Pearl Harbor and the declaration of war. I changed the mission date to end of December 1941 and now the japanese taskforce engages me as it should.
Seriously Ubisoft, historical correctness is nice and all, but this is too much for Europeans like me! *lol* Thanks alot to you guys, now I can finish up the mission!

Originally Posted by Asakura

Hmmm but why does the warship in my first test mission fire at me when I surface right in front of it?

Or is it because I started in periscope depth?

you answered it yourself, you werent detected yet because you were submerged so once detected they fired at you.

the key is in the detection or not being detected because your already too close. i could be wrong about weather they will fire at you or not but it does effect your gun crew firing, if the AI doesnt report it as a new contact its like they are blind sometimes lol.

you can have trouble with things not being reported if they are already in range so if you have trouble with things aproaching unannounced then check how close you have them to your sub

i see you got your avatar

I can't find a "missions"-forum here in the forum overview. Would you be so nice and give me a link to that section?

here you go

SH4 Mission Designers' Forum: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=222

and the best forum to get the most help and quickest reply to your sh4 mod questions is

SH4 Fleet Boat Mods Workshop: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=219

[Asakura]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

you answered it yourself, you werent detected yet because you were submerged so once detected they fired at you.

the key is in the detection or not being detected because your already too close. i could be wrong about weather they will fire at you or not but it does effect your gun crew firing, if the AI doesnt report it as a new contact its like they are blind sometimes lol.

you can have trouble with things not being reported if they are already in range so if you have trouble with things aproaching unannounced then check how close you have them to your sub

So if I'm dived and in sight range of the enemy, there should be no problem with the AI. Good to know that for future missions. Thanks. ^^

i see you got your avatar

Yes, Neal did even more than I asked for. I simply asked for switching to the female avatars, but he put in that little avatar and a custom japanese title right away! I love it! ^^

here you go

SH4 Mission Designers' Forum: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=222

and the best forum to get the most help and quickest reply to your sh4 mod questions is

SH4 Fleet Boat Mods Workshop: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=219

Thanks again, I'll head there for some hints and info.

Originally Posted by peabody

No, No, I do not know more than you, we sometimes know different things and we get an answer by putting our heads together.

That's the spirit! It doesn't matter how much one knows, as he still doesn't know everything. Two minds working together are always better when it comes to troubleshooting.

@Asakura. That is the way I try to do all my troubleshooting, look at the simple stuff first, then proceed to the more difficult.

I guess it's my thing to think complicated first. I started looking for mistakes in unit properties, objective settings, triggers and events and so on. I also went through the mission parameters, but I would've never thought of the date being the problem - instead I changed weather settings in that panel. >.<
To be honest, I didn't know the exact date of the Pearl Harbor-incident. I only know about 1st of September 1939, when Poland was invaded and England and France declared war, so that the war in Europe began. But when the US declared war to Japan was unknown to me - until now. I guess I'll remember that date from now on.

Once again, thanks to both of you for your fast and accurate help.