What can we really expect from SHV?

mookiemookie · 12-31-09, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

RE: What can we really expect from SHV?

More of the same in a pretty new wrapper. I'll wager that most of the core functionality will probably remain unchanged from SH3 and SH4. From how the AI works, to depth charge behavior, to windspeed being capped at 15 kts, to anything that can be called an algorythm, or function that is part of the core mechanics of the sim, will in all likelyhood, remain unchanged. SH5, used SH4 as a base, which used SH3 as a base. There's going to be some inherited code, and if it aint broke, why fix it? So in all seriousness, i hope nobody is expecting a fundamental change in gameplay.

Boil the gameplay down, and what do you really do in SH3 and SH4?

Find ships, track them, attack them, evade.

That's it. No more, no less. Rinse and repeat ad nasuem. For many people here, it will be a very familiar routine, and it's the same routine regardless if your playing ATO or PTO. Find, track, attack, evade. If you expect any more then that, your allowing yourself to fall victim to pregame hype.

The perspective will be different. The GUI will be different, the graphics will be updated, but the core of it, the mechanics of the sim, i'm wagering, will be the same as SH3 and SH4. Toss in about 4 or 5 patch's, and you have a realistic expectation. I also expect that most here will buy it regardless of what commentary they write now. The allure of a game that will have the same core functionalty of SH3/sh4, with a fully rendered interior and spiffy graphics, that make you feel like your in the movie Das Boot will be too much to resist.

I think you're spot on. I seriously am not expecting a drastic change from SH3/SH4. Let's just hope they fix some of the irks about the game.

That being said, I'll take the old girl any day. And I'm sure her new facelift will look great.

Lord Justice · 12-31-09, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That being said, I'll take the old girl any day. And I'm sure her new facelift will look great.

Sir mookiemookie, how do you do sir? and a very happy new year as tis now 01.52 here.

My q is, Please you must tell me, what will you do if the so called old gal has had a complete make over, with full service history stamp on upper and inner thigh removed, and had complete suction with new smooth rebore, which totaly exceeds ones expectations? i presume you wish to dive 1st with her but sir, would you class her truely as your old gal? or bow with upmost respect to this new creation? (after a good feel of course.) thank you.

mookiemookie · 12-31-09, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Para

Sir mookiemookie, how do you do sir? and a very happy new year as tis now 01.52 here.

My q is, what will you do if the so called old gal has had a complete make over, with full service history stamp on upper and inner thigh removed, and had complete suction with new smooth rebore, which totaly exceeds ones expectations? i presume you wish to dive 1st with her but sir, would you class her truely as your old gal? or bow with upmost respect to this new creation? (after a good feel of course.) thank you.

We shall see in March, won't we?

Lord Justice · 12-31-09, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

We shall see in March, won't we?

Well stuff me with green apples, indeed we shall.

MikeVictor · 12-31-09, 11:22 PM

I have tried a few games where the player gives commands to virtual person(s) in the game rather than manipulating objects or shooting in the first person mode. The former is more of a 3rd person mode...and I must say, I don't care for it.

Now I have played games that were a combination of the two modes, where I would lead a team and give orders to them while I performed tasks in the 1st person mode. SH4 is like that now and that is my preferred mode of play. Is SH5 like that too?

Personally yours,

Mike

longam · 12-31-09, 11:24 PM

I just have to remind myself not to venture in this area to much during the first discovery. It seems some have wrote the book before the release of the game. What What?

karamazovnew · 01-01-10, 12:30 AM

I agree with Dulcimus, many of the major possible improvements have been left out. Some will be more visible to modders so it's normal for them to complain more.
The dumbing down perceived by many, such as health bars and tactical radar map aren't bad tho. In fact they are a pure gem for modders and for both begginers and also serious kaleuns that might just want to know what the F is going on. SH has been almost a table-top game in that you need to IMAGINE 90% of what's going on. Very fun for simmers, very annoying for gamers.
Anyway, I can't wait for the game to come up. I expect it to be a SH3 killer from the start. With some modding done, who knows how it will be like one year from now.

JU_88 · 01-01-10, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew

I agree with Dulcimus, many of the major possible improvements have been left out. Some will be more visible to modders so it's normal for them to complain more.
The dumbing down perceived by many, such as health bars and tactical radar map aren't bad tho. In fact they are a pure gem for modders and for both begginers and also serious kaleuns that might just want to know what the F is going on. SH has been almost a table-top game in that you need to IMAGINE 90% of what's going on. Very fun for simmers, very annoying for gamers.
Anyway, I can't wait for the game to come up. I expect it to be a SH3 killer from the start. With some modding done, who knows how it will be like one year from now.

My thoughts exactly ^^

12-31-09, 11:22 PM	#5
MikeVictor Seaman Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA near Washington DC, USA Posts: 36 Downloads: 407 Uploads: 0	What kind of person are you SH5? I have tried a few games where the player gives commands to virtual person(s) in the game rather than manipulating objects or shooting in the first person mode. The former is more of a 3rd person mode...and I must say, I don't care for it. Now I have played games that were a combination of the two modes, where I would lead a team and give orders to them while I performed tasks in the 1st person mode. SH4 is like that now and that is my preferred mode of play. Is SH5 like that too? Personally yours, Mike

12-31-09, 11:24 PM	#6
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I just have to remind myself not to venture in this area to much during the first discovery. It seems some have wrote the book before the release of the game. What What?

01-01-10, 12:30 AM	#7
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	I agree with Dulcimus, many of the major possible improvements have been left out. Some will be more visible to modders so it's normal for them to complain more. The dumbing down perceived by many, such as health bars and tactical radar map aren't bad tho. In fact they are a pure gem for modders and for both begginers and also serious kaleuns that might just want to know what the F is going on. SH has been almost a table-top game in that you need to IMAGINE 90% of what's going on. Very fun for simmers, very annoying for gamers. Anyway, I can't wait for the game to come up. I expect it to be a SH3 killer from the start. With some modding done, who knows how it will be like one year from now.