Strange Behaviour

sergei · 12-29-09, 10:59 AM

Do late war merchants have hydrophones?
I don't know myself. Just an idea.

Jimbuna · 12-29-09, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Here's something that happened to me a few patrols ago. It's late 1944 and I came across a lone, slow-moving C2 Cargo ship north of Ireland. I was at 25 m depth and decided to speed ahead of him for a torpedo attack.

Instantly my little detection symbol in form of a U-Boot (I'm playing SH3 1.4b) goes from green to red - the merchant had detected me apparently. I was like "Huh?"

Just to be sure, I checked with my hydrophone man and consulted my map (F5). No warships in the vicinity. So how did this merchant detect me when I went to full underwater speed!? A game bug?

Your noise meter is simply an indication you are making noise. It is not an indicator of you being detected or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by sergei

Do late war merchants have hydrophones?
I don't know myself. Just an idea.

Late war merchants are not fitted with hydrophones. Remember, hydrophones are useless on the surface.

Nor do thay have Asdic fitted.

Kimmers · 12-29-09, 02:02 PM

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If a merchant ramed a u boat it was likely that the ensuing damage would have killed both ships and that just wouldn't do. At least that is how I understand things.

well in a ramming match between a 6000 ton cargo ship and a considerably smaller u boat, i think there's no question who would come out victorious.

i think i read something that says merchants may try to ram you in the sh3 manual, actually.

Dissaray · 12-29-09, 02:09 PM

Hu, that is intresting. I figured they didn't biuld them for that kind of action and they would likely spring a leek like the Titanic or some thing. But now that I think about it I guess they would have to biuld them strong enuf to take some form of navigational colitions and given the size diferental between soem of the larger ships and the u boat it could work out.

Jimbuna · 12-29-09, 02:20 PM

Merchants were not designed or built for ramming (unlike icebreakers) but the sheer mass of a vessel when compared to that of a U-boat is huge.

Both vessels would receive an element of damage (escorts have been known to be totally disabled after such an action) but I'm in noe doubt the U-boat would come of far worse.

Remember, once the pressure hull of a U-boat is torn/holed, it is no longer capable of submerging.

TomcatMVD · 12-29-09, 05:28 PM

Once, when attacking a convoy, a merchant almost rammed me. It would have succeeded if it wasn't for the fact that I spotted it by pure luck and dived the hell out of its path. I don't know whether it had been intentional, but he sure didn't make any attempts to avoid me.
I posted about it in a novel-like boring thread I opened long time ago.
BTW... Hello again fellow Kaleuns!

12-29-09, 02:20 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,405 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Merchants were not designed or built for ramming (unlike icebreakers) but the sheer mass of a vessel when compared to that of a U-boat is huge. Both vessels would receive an element of damage (escorts have been known to be totally disabled after such an action) but I'm in noe doubt the U-boat would come of far worse. Remember, once the pressure hull of a U-boat is torn/holed, it is no longer capable of submerging. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-29-09, 05:28 PM	#6
TomcatMVD Weps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MVD, UY Posts: 359 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Once, when attacking a convoy, a merchant almost rammed me. It would have succeeded if it wasn't for the fact that I spotted it by pure luck and dived the hell out of its path. I don't know whether it had been intentional, but he sure didn't make any attempts to avoid me. I posted about it in a novel-like boring thread I opened long time ago. BTW... Hello again fellow Kaleuns! __________________

12-29-09, 10:59 AM	#1
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Do late war merchants have hydrophones? I don't know myself. Just an idea.

12-29-09, 02:09 PM	#4
Dissaray 中国水兵 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 280 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hu, that is intresting. I figured they didn't biuld them for that kind of action and they would likely spring a leek like the Titanic or some thing. But now that I think about it I guess they would have to biuld them strong enuf to take some form of navigational colitions and given the size diferental between soem of the larger ships and the u boat it could work out.