WANTED: IJN WWII Colour schemes

Jimbuna · 12-28-09, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Any progress?

I've got two kits thus far:

IJN escort carrier Chuyo by Aoshima
IJN heavy cruiser Ashigara by Fujimi

I've ordered IJN BB Ise, glue, brush sets, masking tape, surface primer, thinners, tweezers, 3rd helping hand, needle file set etc. online and am awaiting their delivery before I can make a start.

Next will be the ordering of relevant Tamiya acrylic paint sets

Oberon · 12-28-09, 09:00 AM

Nice one Jim, I've always had a weak spot for the Akagi, dunno why, just do

Jimbuna · 12-28-09, 09:35 AM

The Akagi was the first Japanese capital ship to be scuttled by own ships in the Pacific War.

It is interesting to note that when Chuyo was sunk she was carrying 21 Pows from the USS Sculpin (20 of whom perished).

http://www.combinedfleet.com/chuyo.htm

Torplexed · 12-28-09, 08:48 PM

That Ise should be fun. Especially with those hair-raising pagoda towers the Japanese were so fond of.

UnderseaLcpl · 12-29-09, 02:20 AM

http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm

This is a site I like to visit from time to time. It has a lot of information and some colour pics, but most of the colour pics are from model boxes.
I'm not sure if that helps, but it's a nice site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

That Ise should be fun. Especially with those hair-raising pagoda towers the Japanese were so fond of.

Indeed.

Interestingly enough, though, the first modern Japanese men-o-war from the period, the Kongo class, were actually designed by Vickers. At least, that's my understanding. It would be interesting to know the exact details of the contract. Did the Japanese specify "Pagoda" superstructures or did Vickers design them on their own? Were they following the example of earlier Japanese designs? I don't know of any WW1 or pre-war designs that used that style.

Anyone care to shed some light?

I-25 · 12-29-09, 04:33 AM

the Lead boat of the Kongo class Battle cruiser( the kongo herself) was actually built at vickers in England. she was the last major warship of the Imperial japanese navy to be built outside of japan. the rest of the class were built in japan. the kongo was TOP class in its time. so much that there was controversy going around while the kongo was being built on how could the royal navy build something better than what they had in the slip for a foreign country. the pagoda towers were added in a early 1930's refit of the class at japan(at this time all japanese BB's where added the pagoda) This is the kongo as she looked orginaly

so there you have it the pagoda towers were a purely Japanese thing. Dump the tripod and get a pagoda they make those ships look MEAN but i love em!

joegrundman · 12-29-09, 05:34 AM

the ships in the Kongo class (Kongo, Haruna, Hiei) were also refitted with oil-turbines, and stripped some secondary armaments to function as battlecruisers.

I painted some of these boats with paints for the correct yards (the different yards used slightly different colours - Tamiya have for the Sasebo and Kure yards)

But Japanese grey is quite a bit darker than allied maritime grey.

On top of that, you will likely give it a dark wash to bring out the detail

Finally it will likely be seen inside your house in the UK instead of in the bright sunlight of the pacific - the net result is that the finished product can easily end up looking much too dark compared to photos (unfortunatley all black and white) etc.

So, while Tamiya Sasebo grey for example, is undoubtedly historically accurate in itself, i think that the result may be overly dark unless you find means to brighten it. Either additional highlights, or lighten the base coat in the first place.

UnderseaLcpl · 12-29-09, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-25

the Lead boat of the Kongo class Battle cruiser( the kongo herself) was actually built at vickers in England. she was the last major warship of the Imperial japanese navy to be built outside of japan. the rest of the class were built in japan. the kongo was TOP class in its time. so much that there was controversy going around while the kongo was being built on how could the royal navy build something better than what they had in the slip for a foreign country. the pagoda towers were added in a early 1930's refit of the class at japan(at this time all japanese BB's where added the pagoda) This is the kongo as she looked orginaly

so there you have it the pagoda towers were a purely Japanese thing. Dump the tripod and get a pagoda they make those ships look MEAN but i love em!

Aha! So the towers were a later modification, then. It's nice to finally know that

I think the original version looks a lot more functional, but I also love the Pagoda towers. You gotta hand the award for intimidating-looking battleships to the Japanese

12-28-09, 09:35 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,484 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The Akagi was the first Japanese capital ship to be scuttled by own ships in the Pacific War. It is interesting to note that when Chuyo was sunk she was carrying 21 Pows from the USS Sculpin (20 of whom perished). http://www.combinedfleet.com/chuyo.htm __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-29-09, 05:34 AM	#7
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	the ships in the Kongo class (Kongo, Haruna, Hiei) were also refitted with oil-turbines, and stripped some secondary armaments to function as battlecruisers. I painted some of these boats with paints for the correct yards (the different yards used slightly different colours - Tamiya have for the Sasebo and Kure yards) But Japanese grey is quite a bit darker than allied maritime grey. On top of that, you will likely give it a dark wash to bring out the detail Finally it will likely be seen inside your house in the UK instead of in the bright sunlight of the pacific - the net result is that the finished product can easily end up looking much too dark compared to photos (unfortunatley all black and white) etc. So, while Tamiya Sasebo grey for example, is undoubtedly historically accurate in itself, i think that the result may be overly dark unless you find means to brighten it. Either additional highlights, or lighten the base coat in the first place. __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

12-28-09, 09:00 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Nice one Jim, I've always had a weak spot for the Akagi, dunno why, just do

12-28-09, 08:48 PM	#4
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	That Ise should be fun. Especially with those hair-raising pagoda towers the Japanese were so fond of.

12-29-09, 04:33 AM	#6
I-25 Commodore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 629 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	the Lead boat of the Kongo class Battle cruiser( the kongo herself) was actually built at vickers in England. she was the last major warship of the Imperial japanese navy to be built outside of japan. the rest of the class were built in japan. the kongo was TOP class in its time. so much that there was controversy going around while the kongo was being built on how could the royal navy build something better than what they had in the slip for a foreign country. the pagoda towers were added in a early 1930's refit of the class at japan(at this time all japanese BB's where added the pagoda) This is the kongo as she looked orginaly so there you have it the pagoda towers were a purely Japanese thing. Dump the tripod and get a pagoda they make those ships look MEAN but i love em!