Hacked Emails Show Climate Science Ridden with Rancor

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Valid science is not easily manipulated, but people, particularly the general public are easily manipulated. You will always have two or more opposing scientific views as A) science is not perfect B) science is ever changing and evolving C) complete consensus never ever will exist among humans D) you will always find someone who disagrees, particularly if you offer them money to. Usually though they will each have their own different evidence in a lot of these arguments.

If the science was done correctly, motive is irrelevant. It only becomes relevant if the science was not done properly.

You are incorrect. The motive came first. Then the trick was to work out how to use 'science' to sell the idea convincingly.

Global warming started as a political agenda to address the issue of more fairly distributing wealth and technology across the planet. The tricky part was how to achieve that end result without letting the masses know that that was the real agenda.

Global Warming was the answer they came up with. You blame the wealthy, technologically advanced countries for any extreme climatic changes, even though most of those changes are naturally occurring phenomena as the planet continues to evolve, and then you try and guilt those technologically advanced countries into financially compensating the less advanced countries.

This is not a new idea. As I said in an earlier post, I was present at a meeting 30 years ago where this very scenario was addressed. The only surprise to me was that it took them such a long time to get the idea off the ground.

[SteamWake]

Big Al dodges more questions

[Morts]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You are incorrect. The motive came first. Then the trick was to work out how to use 'science' to sell the idea convincingly.

Global warming started as a political agenda to address the issue of more fairly distributing wealth and technology across the planet. The tricky part was how to achieve that end result without letting the masses know that that was the real agenda.

Global Warming was the answer they came up with. You blame the wealthy, technologically advanced countries for any extreme climatic changes, even though most of those changes are naturally occurring phenomena as the planet continues to evolve, and then you try and guilt those technologically advanced countries into financially compensating the less advanced countries.

This is not a new idea. As I said in an earlier post, I was present at a meeting 30 years ago where this very scenario was addressed. The only surprise to me was that it took them such a long time to get the idea off the ground.

dont forget your tinfoil hat

[antikristuseke]

I had to, for the lulz.
And as a note, the first person to predict warming from CO2 emissions was Svante August Arrhenius, and he published most of his work from 1900 to 1908 on that subject. Your 30 year number is off a bit.

[TDK1044]

In the end, GW is one of those subjects that will still be being passionately discussed many years from now. You have extremists on both sides of the scientific argument, and those who believe that the issue is as much politically based as it is scientifically based.

Personally, I no longer give the subject a moments thought.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

In the end, GW is one of those subjects that will still be being passionately discussed many years from now. You have extremists on both sides of the scientific argument, and those who believe that the issue is as much politically based as it is scientifically based.

Personally, I no longer give the subject a moments thought.

Not even when legislation is put into place that will effict your life directly?

[Onkel Neal]

I know, I know, this proves nothing. Still, hard to ignore.

In much of the rolling plains of West Texas, a blizzard has never been recorded.

There has been one now.

[Skybird]

that there will be more weather extremes, has been predicted since long. Their is no surprise in that taking place, both in your place, and in ours, too. We over here have much too much rain over the past ten years, for example, and more floodings.

People only are surprised that fate does not save them personally. "How could that be...?"

If there is truth in saying that people only learn if the pain becomes too much, then this might be an answer.