Hacked Emails Show Climate Science Ridden with Rancor

12-15-09, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Apparently Al was misquoting more facts and figures at Copenhagen. You go Al. Just good back up for accusations of skewing figures.

Why was he there?
He's no longer represents USA officialy, or does he?
I find his presense there to be very confusing.

AVGWarhawk · 12-15-09, 07:22 PM

Yeah, Gore showed up like a rockstar. I think he is representing his wallet. Here is the blunder:

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"These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr Wieslav Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years," The Times quoted Gore, as saying.
But Maslowski says that this was never a figure they agreed to.
"I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this," he said.

Nice job Al! You go man!

http://business.rediff.com/report/20...en-blunder.htm

12-15-09, 07:40 PM

I think I'm more used to hearing his name pronounce Algore (like Igore).
This explains why very nicely.

Skybird · 12-15-09, 08:12 PM

This German comment points out a certain side effect of some suggested aid programs at Kopenhagen I have extreme difficulties with.

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...ermoerder.html

Basically it points at the dilemma that some African mass murderes for exmaple from Sudan claim a general historic guilt of the West, see the West agreeing - and accepting compensation - by paying these countries high ammounts of money - to battle climate issues - that are claimed to have been caused by these poor dictatorship's poverty - that has been caused by the West - that this way helped to cause local wars and genocide like in Darfhur.

Of course this is absurd a thinking. The genocide in Dharfhur is somethign that really in no way has been caused by the modern or historic West, not directly and not indirectly. It is a anti-Christian progrom in the main, plain and simple.

One could also point at corruption levels in Kenya. Extremely brutal violence and civil war on Kongo. Mugabe in Simbabwe. And more.

And these thugs and slaugterers could expect to get access to hundreds of millions - our tax moneys, yours and mine. Since the money will be meant to battle climate problems, I'm sure they will immediately turn from Sauls to Pauls, behave like saints and will not even think a second on taking the money for themselves and their clans. Why always be so pessimistic, eh? We are all humans, and climate is important and good intentions are what makes the world go round.

Before we sent money to many African regions, I think we should send an armada of assassins wiping out the whole social class of corrupted politicians' and ambitiously conspirating Colonels' families and tribes first. And since this is almost impossible to be acchieved due to their tribal community structures and blood revenge from generation to generation and all that archaic stuff, I think we should send neither assassins nor money to these countries (and stop delivering weapons as well, I admit). The whole Copenhagen goal, even if they acchieve the most optimal maximum outcome some hope to reach, is set many times too low on a level so that this regional failure in Africa would not make a global difference anymore anyway.

Not kind to say such things, I know. But true. And if the philantropic, all-tolerant consensus crowd feels disturbed in their daisy-picking smile-all-summer-long sit-in: the more annoyed over the disturbance they are the better.

12-15-09, 10:04 PM

Foreign Aid (My definition):
Taking money from poor people in a "rich" country
and giving to rich people in a poor country.

magic452 · 12-15-09, 11:00 PM

Snestorn

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Foreign Aid (My definition):
Taking money from poor people in a "rich" country
and giving to rich people in a poor country.

You sure hit the nail on the head with that.

Magic

SteamWake · 12-16-09, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

Why was he there?
He's no longer represents USA officialy, or does he?
I find his presense there to be very confusing.

He has a vested interest in the issue. Regardless of wether or not he is in an 'offical' capacity for the United States he is viewed as if he is.

Many view him as if he 'speaks for all of america' which of course is a mistaken impression but a useful one.

12-15-09, 07:40 PM	#3
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12-15-09, 08:12 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,669 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This German comment points out a certain side effect of some suggested aid programs at Kopenhagen I have extreme difficulties with. http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...ermoerder.html Basically it points at the dilemma that some African mass murderes for exmaple from Sudan claim a general historic guilt of the West, see the West agreeing - and accepting compensation - by paying these countries high ammounts of money - to battle climate issues - that are claimed to have been caused by these poor dictatorship's poverty - that has been caused by the West - that this way helped to cause local wars and genocide like in Darfhur. Of course this is absurd a thinking. The genocide in Dharfhur is somethign that really in no way has been caused by the modern or historic West, not directly and not indirectly. It is a anti-Christian progrom in the main, plain and simple. One could also point at corruption levels in Kenya. Extremely brutal violence and civil war on Kongo. Mugabe in Simbabwe. And more. And these thugs and slaugterers could expect to get access to hundreds of millions - our tax moneys, yours and mine. Since the money will be meant to battle climate problems, I'm sure they will immediately turn from Sauls to Pauls, behave like saints and will not even think a second on taking the money for themselves and their clans. Why always be so pessimistic, eh? We are all humans, and climate is important and good intentions are what makes the world go round. Before we sent money to many African regions, I think we should send an armada of assassins wiping out the whole social class of corrupted politicians' and ambitiously conspirating Colonels' families and tribes first. And since this is almost impossible to be acchieved due to their tribal community structures and blood revenge from generation to generation and all that archaic stuff, I think we should send neither assassins nor money to these countries (and stop delivering weapons as well, I admit). The whole Copenhagen goal, even if they acchieve the most optimal maximum outcome some hope to reach, is set many times too low on a level so that this regional failure in Africa would not make a global difference anymore anyway. Not kind to say such things, I know. But true. And if the philantropic, all-tolerant consensus crowd feels disturbed in their daisy-picking smile-all-summer-long sit-in: the more annoyed over the disturbance they are the better. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-15-09, 10:04 PM	#5
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Foreign Aid (My definition): Taking money from poor people in a "rich" country and giving to rich people in a poor country.