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Originally Posted by August

Yeah because you'd certainly know better sitting in your little ice palace up there in Finland than Steve would living smack dab in the middle of the US.

That's right because living in a country makes a person expert in everything concerning said country.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

That's right because living in a country makes a person expert in everything concerning said country.

Maybe not the expert but certainly has a hand up. Then again, if you ever been to Walmart here in the states you would...well never mind.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Maybe not the expert but certainly has a hand up. Then again, if you ever been to Walmart here in the states you would...well never mind.

The US is the no. 1 polluter of the world, I'd say that tells more about US then something someone has said. Actions speak louder then words, as they say.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

The US is the no. 1 polluter of the world, I'd say that tells more about US then something someone has said. Actions speak louder then words, as they say.

Try this list first as the large polluters:

CO2 Emissions (per capita) (most recent) by country
#1 Qatar: 40.6735 per 1,000 people
#2 United Arab Emirates: 28.213 per 1,000 people
#3 Kuwait: 25.0499 per 1,000 people
#4 Bahrain: 20.0253 per 1,000 people
#5 United States: 19.4839 per 1,000 people

Waste generation (most recent) by country
#1 Denmark: 560 kgs per person per year
#2 Netherlands: 530 kgs per person per year
#3 United Kingdom: 480 kgs per person per year
#4 United States: 460 kgs per person per year
#5 Belgium: 450 kgs per person per year
Pollution > Carbon dioxide 1999 (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 1,499,850
#2 Russia: 392,287
#3 Japan: 315,274
#4 India: 293,938
#5 Germany: 216,213
Pollution > Nuclear waste (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 2,100
#2 Canada: 1,340
#3 France: 1,130
#4 Japan: 964
#5 United Kingdom:
And here the countries that work on being green the most..
Environmental agreement compliance (most recent) by country Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Finland: 6.72
#2 Denmark: 6.67
#3 Sweden: 6.54
#4 Austria: 6.33
#5 Germany: 6.27

10 most polluted places in 2006:

Linfen, China, where residents say they literally choke on coal dust in the evenings, exemplifies many Chinese cities;
Haina, Dominican Republic, has severe lead contamination because of lead battery recycling, a problem common throughout poorer countries [image];
Ranipet, India, where leather tanning wastes contaminate groundwater with hexavalent chromium, made famous by Erin Brockovich, resulting in water that apparently stings like an insect bite [image];
Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan, home to nearly 2 million cubic meters of radioactive mining waste that threatens the entire Ferghana valley, one of the most fertile and densely populated areas in Central Asia that also experiences high rates of seismic activity;
La Oroya, Peru, where the metal processing plant, owned by the Missouri-based Doe Run Corporation, leads to toxic emissions of lead;
Dzerzinsk, Russia, one of the country's principal chemical weapons manufacturing sites until the end of the Cold War [image];
Norilsk, Russia, which houses the world's largest heavy metals smelting complex;
Rudnaya Pristan, Russia, where lead contamination resulted in child blood lead levels eight to 20 times maximum allowable U.S. levels;
Chernobyl, Ukraine, infamous site of a nuclear meltdown 20 years ago; and
Kabwe, Zambia, where child blood levels of lead are five to 10 times the allowable EPA maximum [image].


And the new winner:

AUSTRALIA!
http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/09/11/...-in-the-world/

It’s official. While Americans had long had the honor (or, in this case, dishonor) of being the world’s biggest individual producers of carbon dioxide, Australians have overtaken them to claim the top spot. In a recently released report, British risk consultancy Maplecroft placed Australia’s per capita CO2 output at 20.58 tons a year, which is about four percent higher than the United States. The other three top five biggest losers were Canada, the Netherlands (quite surprisingly) and Saudi Arabia. To Australia’s credit, it has committed to cutting greenhouse gas emissions by up to 25 percent by 2020 compared to 2000 levels, meaning that Americans could once again be labeled “World’s Worst Polluters” if we don’t get our acts together. To be fair, many individual Aussies, like our very own Jorge Chapa, are extremely green, and hopefully offset some of their homeland’s unsustainable ways.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Maybe not the expert but certainly has a hand up. Then again, if you ever been to Walmart here in the states you would...well never mind.

I'd say that if Herring were American he'd be a Walmart regular...

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

That's right because living in a country makes a person expert in everything concerning said country.

So now you're claiming that you know more about the US than Steve does? Here's a hint, you don't. Not even close.

Originally Posted by August

So now you're claiming that you know more about the US than Steve does? Here's a hint, you don't. Not even close.

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

The US is the no. 1 polluter of the world, I'd say that tells more about US then something someone has said. Actions speak louder then words, as they say.

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

The US is the no. 1 polluter of the world, I'd say that tells more about US then something someone has said. Actions speak louder then words, as they say.

Except that, just like in most of the other things you post, you're wrong.

Originally Posted by August

Except that, just like in most of the other things you post, you're wrong.

By what definition, per capita or absolute figures? Or perhaps both?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

By what definition, per capita or absolute figures? Or perhaps both?

Does it matter? Well no. Pollution is pollution.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Does it matter? Well no.

Of course it does. I mean, China has about 4 + times the population of the US so it's not that big of surprise if they produce more pollution in absolute figures then the US. And a small country like Qatar may produce more in terms of per capita but a lot less in absolute figures.