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Old 12-06-09, 01:36 PM   #1
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The only non-German references to this guy on the internets are on white supremacist blogs and racist websites
Do not knock Skybirds sources, just errrrrr....comment on the reliabilty and objectivity of his sources
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Old 12-06-09, 02:41 PM   #2
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Do not knock Skybirds sources, just errrrrr....comment on the reliabilty and objectivity of his sources
Yeah, this one really reeks of intellectual dishonnesty and deception. I found the Encyclopedia of Islam on the net, Raddatz is indeed technically a "co-author" of this book as he has a whopping one contribution in one page in one volume out of the 12.
http://www.archive.org/stream/EI2-v1...2-V-9_djvu.txt

He is certainly NOT "co-editor" as Skybird claimed, and funnily enough, FrontPageMag and various blogs use the same deception to make him look like a major contributor (emphasis mine):
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Peter Raddatz, a German scholar of Islamic Studies and the co-author of the renowned “Encyclopaedia of Islam.”
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347

Also notice that in both Encyclopedia, the same book from 1971 is referenced, so even his tiny presence in the Encyclopedia doesn't say anything about the value or lack of of his recent work, which I can't judge directly since I don't speak German.

But given that the man's work is superior to that of Annemarie Schimmel, I have no doubt his books will be translated into several languages very soon. After all, "von Allah zum Terror" has only been published in 2002, it shouldn't take too long now should it?
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Old 12-06-09, 04:08 PM   #3
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And just btw, when you now admit that you are not familiar with Raddatz' work and aguments

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, which I can't judge directly since I don't speak German.
why did you feel you had to ridicule and diffame him in your earlier postings, although you obviously do not know the object of your condemnation? One can try that with a general trend, a school, a tradition of thinking, but when one is picking individual names of authors from that, one should know what these authors actually are saying, and why, don't you think. and encyclopdeia back and forth, obviously I know Raddatz work a little bit better than you do. Because different to you I have read several of his own books. so if oyu want to discredit Raddatz, counter his arguments. Many try that, btw, and it is claimed they are right, but I cannot see very many succeeding. different to popular accusations, he refers a lot to Isamci nsources themselves, and different to popular criticsm he always refers to the wider context of these sources and the pieces he take from them. that's what makes some appendices i his books really intimidating, but I assume most simply ignore them and then forget that they are there.

See, I admitted my misled information basis on the encyclopedia thing when you raised an argument/information/link that I could not counter. I have no problem to do so when something convinces me or conclusions leave me no other choice than to change my view. Just to set up random claims, even claims that are in violation of things that I am sure to have a better informational background on then the other according to what he reveals about his sources, or claims that just parrot some hear-say and popular slogans - that is a way of doing that does not convince me.

I am no web specialist like Avalon Lady was, she had a link for EVERYTHING, it seems. My background are books, and travel experiences, for the most, and books much more than the internet to which I came relatively late. these two formed the background of my thinking and understanding these matters, and on this basis, and some first hand events in my real life that I repeatedly explained, I argue and "operate".
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