[REL] SKIN S-boat dazzle camo (yes, another one ^^)

i love the job you did but i feel the need to point out the s-boats were 20 yr old hulks that were rusty as hell in spite of how much they tried to maintain them and even a fresh brand new paint job didnt cover up the rust very well or for very long.

i would love to see you take away the "brand new off the showroom" look and change it to a more dirty and weathered look and add a good bit of rust everywhere. at the very least it should still look like a 20 yr old boat.

granted its not realistic to have the dazzle on an s-boat to start with but it is something that "could" have been done at the time and it you had adirty and rusty version it would look more like a somewhat realistic version of a "possible" real version.

just my 2 cents

[Rockin Robbins]

Actually the dazzle paint was tried well before the war, when the s-boats weren't yet complete walking dead yet! Even then it didn't last long as the findings from the test were that the boat was actually easier to spot....who figured?

[ichso]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

i love the job you did but i feel the need to point out the s-boats were 20 yr old hulks that were rusty as hell in spite of how much they tried to maintain them and even a fresh brand new paint job didnt cover up the rust very well or for very long.

i would love to see you take away the "brand new off the showroom" look and change it to a more dirty and weathered look and add a good bit of rust everywhere. at the very least it should still look like a 20 yr old boat.

granted its not realistic to have the dazzle on an s-boat to start with but it is something that "could" have been done at the time and it you had adirty and rusty version it would look more like a somewhat realistic version of a "possible" real version.

just my 2 cents

Where there rusty looking boats in action during the war ? If they got at least freshly painted before each patrol that could have covered up most of the rusty hull.
But the idea is nice, it would give a whole different appeal to these things, makes the player feel more like sitting in a steel tube that is close before completely falling apart

[WernherVonTrapp]

I thought the dazzle camo scheme wasn't meant to make the boats harder to spot, but rather, to make it more difficult for the enemy gunners/u-boats to determine it's course, speed and length. From what I've read so far, it was rather successful at accomplishing this with it's British innovators and was therefore adopted by the U.S. Navy. Of course, the advent of gun laying radar meant the advent of camo schemes designed to make the vessel harder to see.

[Armistead]

Wernher, you're correct, if fact the dazzle paint schemes were painted in bold bright colors, yellows, purples, reds, ect..We just see the black and white photo's, but can you imagine the dazzle schemes painted bold coming across the sea. The lines and colors were done to make it hard to determine course and confuse the eye in WW1. They all basically died out in WW2, ships were easy to spot and updated radar and sonar made the schemes more dangerous than helpful.

They did test several schemes for ww2 subs, painted waves, different colors of gray, towers more sky and deck dark gray. Finally decided why a scheme may help in certain conditions, it could hurt in others. Black was popular until they decided gray was best for day and night.

This is one of my favorites, the colors not shown in the B&W pic were blue, yellow and white....

[Jan Kyster]

Originally Posted by Armistead

... This is one of my favorites, the colors not shown in the B&W pic were blue, yellow and white....
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You could have linked to her shown in full colour! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...06&postcount=4


Found these two images:

USS K 2 (SS-33) off Pensacola, Florida on 12 April 1916...


Same day, same location: the USS K 5 (SS-36).


Source:
Naval Camouflage 1914-1945
A complete visual reference by David Williams
ISBN 1-55750-496-2