More realistic torpedo failures via SH3 Commander

LGN1 · 11-27-09, 06:12 AM

Hi,

thanks for the kind words. I have found out that in GWX and NYGM the TIII torpedo (which solved the depth problem) becomes available on the 1st of June 1942. Therefore I have changed the date entries above (new end date 19420531 instead of 19421031).

The TIII is already available earlier, but only as prototype and thus, cannot be chosen by the player (but some are given in the initial loadout). So, the torpedoes affected are the TI, TII, and, TIII. For these torpedos one should change the depth in the torpedo.sim file. I will try to figure out how this also can be done via SH3 Commander.

Cheers, LGN1

Magic1111 · 11-27-09, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LGN1

I will try to figure out how this also can be done via SH3 Commander.

Cheers, LGN1

Oh yes, that would be good if that were possible!

Best regards,
Magic

JScones · 11-27-09, 06:33 AM

It's definitely possible. IIRC Mini Tweaker will give you the offset in hex. I'm not sure about S3D, but even if it gives the offset in decimal, it's simple to convert it to hex.

LGN1 · 11-27-09, 07:13 AM

I think I figured it out

In order to do the changes in the torpedo.sim file automatically, one has to add the following lines to Randomised events.cfg:

;----------Adapt initial depth in data\Library\Torpedo.sim for TI,TII,TIII begin----
[0:data\Library\Torpedo.sim]
ApplyToPeriod=19390101|19420531
;Or 19390101|19450508 for whole war
;No randomization
ChooseFrom=1
RndMidPat=1

0_x0CCF=2 ; initial depth for TI
0_x0E7B=2 ; initial depth for TII
0_x0FE7=2 ; initial depth for TIII
;----------Adapt launch depth in data\Library\Torpedo.sim for TI,TII,TIII end----

I would be very happy if someone who knows more about these values than I do could confirm them. It seems they are correct for stock SH3, GWX and NYGM (at least an older version. I don't know whether the file has been changed since then). So, if one uses a modified Torpedo.sim file then it is good to check these values again.

Cheers, LGN1

Sailor Steve · 11-27-09, 12:55 PM

This is brilliant! Can't wait until I can play again, so I can try it out.

JScones · 11-27-09, 07:28 PM

Glad you figured it out.

iambecomelife · 11-27-09, 10:21 PM

Excellent work. I wanted to adapt my WWI mod to SH3 as well as SH4, but the lack of duds was one of the main reasons stopping this. Glad it's been solved.

Forgive my ignorance, but can you get torpedoes with several different depth keeping errors during one patrol? For instance, Torpedo #1 is 2m too deep, Torpedo #2 is 3m too deep, and so on? Or is a single value calculated at start-up for each instance of depth-keeping failure, and applied uniformly until you restart the game?

11-27-09, 07:13 AM	#4
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	I think I figured it out In order to do the changes in the torpedo.sim file automatically, one has to add the following lines to Randomised events.cfg: ;----------Adapt initial depth in data\Library\Torpedo.sim for TI,TII,TIII begin---- [0:data\Library\Torpedo.sim] ApplyToPeriod=19390101\|19420531 ;Or 19390101\|19450508 for whole war ;No randomization ChooseFrom=1 RndMidPat=1 0_x0CCF=2 ; initial depth for TI 0_x0E7B=2 ; initial depth for TII 0_x0FE7=2 ; initial depth for TIII ;----------Adapt launch depth in data\Library\Torpedo.sim for TI,TII,TIII end---- I would be very happy if someone who knows more about these values than I do could confirm them. It seems they are correct for stock SH3, GWX and NYGM (at least an older version. I don't know whether the file has been changed since then). So, if one uses a modified Torpedo.sim file then it is good to check these values again. Cheers, LGN1 Last edited by LGN1; 11-28-09 at 04:46 AM.

11-27-09, 12:55 PM	#5
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11-27-09, 10:21 PM	#7
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,710 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Excellent work. I wanted to adapt my WWI mod to SH3 as well as SH4, but the lack of duds was one of the main reasons stopping this. Glad it's been solved. Forgive my ignorance, but can you get torpedoes with several different depth keeping errors during one patrol? For instance, Torpedo #1 is 2m too deep, Torpedo #2 is 3m too deep, and so on? Or is a single value calculated at start-up for each instance of depth-keeping failure, and applied uniformly until you restart the game? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

11-27-09, 06:12 AM	#1
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi, thanks for the kind words. I have found out that in GWX and NYGM the TIII torpedo (which solved the depth problem) becomes available on the 1st of June 1942. Therefore I have changed the date entries above (new end date 19420531 instead of 19421031). The TIII is already available earlier, but only as prototype and thus, cannot be chosen by the player (but some are given in the initial loadout). So, the torpedoes affected are the TI, TII, and, TIII. For these torpedos one should change the depth in the torpedo.sim file. I will try to figure out how this also can be done via SH3 Commander. Cheers, LGN1 Last edited by LGN1; 12-02-09 at 11:55 AM.

11-27-09, 06:33 AM	#3
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	It's definitely possible. IIRC Mini Tweaker will give you the offset in hex. I'm not sure about S3D, but even if it gives the offset in decimal, it's simple to convert it to hex.

11-27-09, 07:28 PM	#6
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Glad you figured it out.