Reasons to buy a new PC - Page 6

karamazovnew · 11-18-09, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosencrantz

Have you already started making up reasons why you - coincidentally - need a new PC just before SH5 is released? My old one has RAM 512 only, so I think that's a good reason enough... I have been playing 4 with laptop, and I'm not totally happy with that.

Greetings,
-RC-

Hero: "I decided to join the navy. I'll be leaving for about 4-6 months."
Wife or Mom: "What?! Are you crazy? Does it have anything to do with that silly game of yours?"
Hero: "Actually yes, I've seen some images of Silent Hunter 5 and I got the urge to travel the Atlantic"
Wife or Mom: "Can't you just play the damn thing? Remember when you wanted to join the army when that game Modern Warfare came up? ".
Hero: "Yes but I can't play this game. My PC is to old for it".
Wife or Mom: "Then just buy a new PC, I'm not letting you go!"
Hero: "

Oh... all right... if you say so."

Sailor Steve · 11-18-09, 02:56 PM

That's a good 'un!

FIREWALL · 11-18-09, 03:13 PM

TigerDirect for all my needs. NewEgg and I are in the same almost 10% sales tax state.

Tell the wifey your donateing alot of money to "Save the Tigers" fund.

Lord Justice · 11-20-09, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

i was only talking about "case" fans for the case cooling

as for CPU coolers its like choosing a girlfriend, everybody likes something a little different so i wouldnt get into recommending those although personally i agree the stock intels are fine. i use the arctic cooler 7 so it directs the heat staight out the rear fan and its even quieter than intels stock cpu cooler. i've been told it keeps the CPU cooler than intels stock cooler but it dont push it enough to know for sure.

Once again some good valid points, the ones with PSU leads to atx full size case, side fan cooling and cpu cooling, spot on. using the artic 7 myself, cpu temp dropped 12 degrees but changed case for cm scout and added 2 120 mm , 12000 rpm sythe s-flex side panel fans, mobo also dropped 5 degrees,my suped up diesels are about to be upgraded next week going nuclear lol i7 1366 socket, and the rest of the spiel etc etc but have to ask you webster!! can you confirm wich ? and when video card change? iam holding out to march and going for the sapphire ati 5870, should drop a little bye then, as you know replacing mobo as well bye ddr2 but thinking asus usally always, but still to read up on the new gigabyte ud7?? supporting sata 3 + usb 3, drivers could be an issue though!! so new all round overhaul apart from gpu for the moment then i sell fast old diesels to supply cost for 5870 or 5890 for sh5, as a pc tech i obviosly know etc etc but curious once again to your choice of gpu at sh5 realise.

Elder-Pirate · 11-20-09, 02:46 PM

OMG youse guys better come clean pretty quick or this could happen to you.

Torplexed can draw them can't he.

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-20-09, 04:37 PM

Administrate the financial part of your life is not as important as administrate your life itself.

That includes managing your friend and your wife/girlfriend.

Everybody needs it's privacy and freetime, and if she cant understand that, you are better off finding someone that fits you best.

Its always better to be alone than to have a bad companion.

And if she doesnt understand you, dont think women are like that. You just didnt find the right one for you.

java`s revenge · 11-20-09, 04:46 PM

Yes ofcourse, i upgraded already BUT...

The nvidia 260gtx doesn`t work perfect. I have to underclock it a little
to see no glitches and the nvidia drivers aren`t perfect. I do use
the 178.24 drivers all above gives strange errors that you can
find when you google on it.

11-20-09, 08:23 PM

if your wife wont let you do it then just ask your girlfriend instead, she might say yes

TheDarkWraith · 11-21-09, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by java`s revenge

Yes ofcourse, i upgraded already BUT...

The nvidia 260gtx doesn`t work perfect. I have to underclock it a little
to see no glitches and the nvidia drivers aren`t perfect. I do use
the 178.24 drivers all above gives strange errors that you can
find when you google on it.

Who makes your 260GTX? I have a BFGTech GTX280 and I've even oc'd it with no problems what-so-ever. Using 191.07 drivers (Win 7 64bit). Played Torchlight, Wolfenstein, all the Silent Hunters, both Crysis games, and FarCry 2 with no graphics problems at all.

Webchessie · 11-21-09, 11:18 AM

Luckily, all I have to say is "honey, the thingy don't work too well now for you to shop at chadwicks.com (add whatever catalog she gets in the mail here), so I think it's time to buy a new thingy for you. Just because I love you so! (smile and look pathetic)."

IMPORTANT NOTE: Don't forget to actually allow her to check her shopping websites from time-to-time. That will require you to actually stop playing, but you probably needed to shower anyhow . . .

java`s revenge · 11-21-09, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy

Who makes your 260GTX? I have a BFGTech GTX280 and I've even oc'd it with no problems what-so-ever. Using 191.07 drivers (Win 7 64bit). Played Torchlight, Wolfenstein, all the Silent Hunters, both Crysis games, and FarCry 2 with no graphics problems at all.

The geforcecard has been made by XFX.
Motherboard by Gigabite, the GA EX58-UD3R.

ps249 · 11-22-09, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

just curious why you chose to go with a 9500 card when its a few generations old?

if it was to save money then a 9800 would have been very little price difference and is a better card IMO

whats done is done but im wondering if theres something about a 9500 i didnt know about?

ps - that 1000 GB HDD is called a 1 TB (terra bite) it sounds cooler to say it that way too

Webster- I left the video card up to my computer tech. I told him what I wanted ( I told him I wanted a good gamer that would not be obsolete within a year and something that did not break the bank) so I left it up to him. My old card was a Geforce 6150 LE so it was very choppy on SH3 and could not even play the Grey Wolves expansion. I could not even play SH4, and there was no way it was going to play SH5- so it was time to upgrade. The 9500 GT has been around for a while and is very highly reviewed (4 stars average out of 5) . I do not like paying the higher premium for the newer cards. I also wanted to stay in the Nvidia family. I know about the 1 terabyte but since most people dont have one- most never heard of that term yet. My PC tech said it was only a matter of about $25 to go from a 500 GB to a 1 TB hard drive. With the ever increasing larger files like pc games, music and video- it don't take much to eat up all that space nowadays. A 1 TB hardrive goes for around $80. My new rig cost me $700 with labor included.

PS I can remember my first computer was a HP I bought in 1998. It had a 333 MHZ Intel Celeron processor, 64 MB RAM, 4 GB hard drive and Windows 98 2nd edition. It cost me $850 for the tower alone. It didnt even have a video card worth mentioning. Of all the computers I bought- I had to replace the video card within the first year. That was one of my decisions to have one custom built.

11-22-09, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps249

Webster- I left the video card up to my computer tech.

well i think he could have done better by you to choose the 1gb 9800 because it was only $50 or less price difference but it would have been a major improvement over the 9500.

i agree with your logic, i never buy the top line #1 stuff either and i also choose the 2nd best stuff to save money.

9500 is still "sorta" new tech but the choice he made was to get you the 4th or 5th best card and while it was still "good" it wasnt what i would call a very good card which is what you look for to future proof your system.

the difference in a 9500 to a 9800 is BIG, that extra $50 to get the 9800 would have given you a very big improvement for a little bit of money so that is why it struck me as an odd choice to make when building a system.

ps249 · 11-23-09, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

well i think he could have done better by you to choose the 1gb 9800 because it was only $50 or less price difference but it would have been a major improvement over the 9500.

i agree with your logic, i never buy the top line #1 stuff either and i also choose the 2nd best stuff to save money.

9500 is still "sorta" new tech but the choice he made was to get you the 4th or 5th best card and while it was still "good" it wasnt what i would call a very good card which is what you look for to future proof your system.

the difference in a 9500 to a 9800 is BIG, that extra $50 to get the 9800 would have given you a very big improvement for a little bit of money so that is why it struck me as an odd choice to make when building a system.

Webster= what is your reasoning for the 9800 over the 9500?

PL_Andrev · 11-23-09, 03:24 AM

The advantage of model 9500 card is the only one: is very cheap (hmmm... and more silent).

I compare Gigabyte cards 9500GT and 9800GT with 512MB RAM DDR3 both:

Efficiency of 9800GT is two-three times better than 9500GT with results:
3D Mark: 2x more than 9500GT
GPU score: 3x more than 9500GT

On hi-res games:
9800GT has 2x better result with FPS (no FSAA/no AF)
... and 2x / 3x better result with FPS (FSAA/AF)
2x for high res more than 1680x1050 / 3x for 1280x1024

PT Boats: Knight of the Sea 1280x1024
FSAA 4x / AF 16x:
9500GT - 11.7 FPS
9800GT - 28.6 FPS

(all data: non-english source)

Summary:
On my market 9800GT is only 1.5 more expensive than 9500GT.
But 9800GT is 2x / 3x more efficient than 9500GT.

So, this is reason than 9800GT is better than 9500GT (Gigabyte with 512MB both)

* * *

When I compare RAM (DDR3), card with 1024MB is only 10-20% more efficient than this same model with 512MB (but I think that it depends from game requirements and code's optimalization - SH5 bases on SH4 engine, so it will be small profit form 1MB card)

11-18-09, 02:56 PM	#77
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11-18-09, 03:13 PM	#78
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	TigerDirect for all my needs. NewEgg and I are in the same almost 10% sales tax state. Tell the wifey your donateing alot of money to "Save the Tigers" fund. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-20-09, 02:46 PM	#80
Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	OMG youse guys better come clean pretty quick or this could happen to you. Torplexed can draw them can't he. __________________

11-20-09, 04:37 PM	#81
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Administrate the financial part of your life is not as important as administrate your life itself. That includes managing your friend and your wife/girlfriend. Everybody needs it's privacy and freetime, and if she cant understand that, you are better off finding someone that fits you best. Its always better to be alone than to have a bad companion. And if she doesnt understand you, dont think women are like that. You just didnt find the right one for you. __________________ To each his own

11-20-09, 04:46 PM	#82
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	Yes ofcourse, i upgraded already BUT... The nvidia 260gtx doesn`t work perfect. I have to underclock it a little to see no glitches and the nvidia drivers aren`t perfect. I do use the 178.24 drivers all above gives strange errors that you can find when you google on it. __________________

11-20-09, 08:23 PM	#83
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	if your wife wont let you do it then just ask your girlfriend instead, she might say yes

11-21-09, 11:18 AM	#85
Webchessie Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Florida USA Posts: 102 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Luckily, all I have to say is "honey, the thingy don't work too well now for you to shop at chadwicks.com (add whatever catalog she gets in the mail here), so I think it's time to buy a new thingy for you. Just because I love you so! (smile and look pathetic)." IMPORTANT NOTE: Don't forget to actually allow her to check her shopping websites from time-to-time. That will require you to actually stop playing, but you probably needed to shower anyhow . . . __________________

11-23-09, 03:24 AM	#90
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	The advantage of model 9500 card is the only one: is very cheap (hmmm... and more silent). I compare Gigabyte cards 9500GT and 9800GT with 512MB RAM DDR3 both: Efficiency of 9800GT is two-three times better than 9500GT with results: 3D Mark: 2x more than 9500GT GPU score: 3x more than 9500GT On hi-res games: 9800GT has 2x better result with FPS (no FSAA/no AF) ... and 2x / 3x better result with FPS (FSAA/AF) 2x for high res more than 1680x1050 / 3x for 1280x1024 PT Boats: Knight of the Sea 1280x1024 FSAA 4x / AF 16x: 9500GT - 11.7 FPS 9800GT - 28.6 FPS (all data: non-english source) Summary: On my market 9800GT is only 1.5 more expensive than 9500GT. But 9800GT is 2x / 3x more efficient than 9500GT. So, this is reason than 9800GT is better than 9500GT (Gigabyte with 512MB both) * * * When I compare RAM (DDR3), card with 1024MB is only 10-20% more efficient than this same model with 512MB (but I think that it depends from game requirements and code's optimalization - SH5 bases on SH4 engine, so it will be small profit form 1MB card) __________________ Last edited by PL_Andrev; 11-23-09 at 04:22 AM.