They want to see Buckingham Palace become a mosque

Shearwater · 11-12-09, 06:48 PM

I didn't know that Islam was actually an economic system

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You learn something new every day.

mookiemookie · 11-12-09, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shearwater

I didn't know that Islam was actually an economic system

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You learn something new every day.

I work for a bond firm. You'd be very surprised to see the market for Islamic bonds - massive! Apparently there's something in Islam that forbids the concept of interest, so they structure these bonds in such a way that complies with their religious tenets. We don't deal in them, so I couldn't begin to tell you how they work, but the market is very large.

11-12-09, 07:00 PM

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Then you do not know what a redneck is, obviously

Rednecks were those crazy religious freaks from up in the mountains who wanted a very strict church run government.
A lot of them moved to the colonies after the war of the 3 kingdoms.

AVGWarhawk · 11-12-09, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Rednecks were those crazy religious freaks from up in the mountains who wanted a very strict church run government.
A lot of them moved to the colonies after the war of the 3 kingdoms.

Man, you got a lot to learn.

Onkel Neal · 11-12-09, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

As for rednecks wearing dresses, the one on the right looks like she's in a dress.

Hmmm... I don't know that women can be rednecks. Maybe Southerners or whatever, but redneck is a male term, usually.

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Man, you got a lot to learn.

No kidding. Maybe there are multiple variations of the term "redneck". I never heard nuthin' about three kingdoms, though.

11-12-09, 07:55 PM

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Man, you got a lot to learn.

No you have a lot to learn, the Rednecks moved to what is now the USA. They were crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists who wanted a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.
Just like the crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists in the story want a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.

Back then there was a bunch that had taken radical Lutheranism and pushed it to crazy extremist levels, now there is a bunch that has taken already crazy wahhibism and taken it to even crazier levels .

Come to think of it, some comedian the other day compared the American backwoods Rednecks (decended from Covenanter Rednecks) with the crazy clans in afghanistan or pakistan.
Hatfields and McCoys with Dostum and Karzai.

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No kidding. Maybe there are multiple variations of the term "redneck". I never heard nuthin' about three kingdoms, though.

Its the series of civil wars in England Ireland and Scotland, from England America got the Puritans and from Scotland it got the rednecks (presbyterian covenanters)

AVGWarhawk · 11-12-09, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

No you have a lot to learn, the Rednecks moved to what is now the USA. They were crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists who wanted a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.
Just like the crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists in the story want a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.

Back then there was a bunch that had taken radical Lutheranism and pushed it to crazy extremist levels, now there is a bunch that has taken already crazy wahhibism and taken it to even crazier levels .

Come to think of it, some comedian the other day compared the American backwoods Rednecks (decended from Covenanter Rednecks) with the crazy clans in afghanistan or pakistan.
Hatfields and McCoys with Dostum and Karzai.

Its the series of civil wars in England Ireland and Scotland, from England America got the Puritans and from Scotland it got the rednecks (presbyterian covenanters)

I was correct, you do have a lot to learn. Where in the world did you get that outlandish idea of what a redneck is?

I do not remember my history book saying, "All the rednecks clamored onto the hunting flat with 140hp Johnson outboard engine. Stowed their 16 cases of Budweiser, Buck their faithful hunting dog and all the 00 shotgun shells they could carry. Then the rednecks shoved off to the new world to get away from the grand conspiracy." Welcome to Tribesman history

Torplexed · 11-12-09, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its the series of civil wars in England Ireland and Scotland, from England America got the Puritans and from Scotland it got the rednecks (presbyterian covenanters)

In addition you can blame Bonnie Prince Charley and the Jacobite Highland Clans losing the Battle of Culloden and getting their Scottish behinds exiled to here (and Canada) after the Highland Clearances. That's what you get for wearing a dress into battle. Aye...now ya noo where the wee Klan comes from.

SgtPotato · 11-12-09, 10:55 PM

Wow.. Islam. Big ****ing deal. All religions are ****ing stupid.

Aramike · 11-13-09, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtPotato

Wow.. Islam. Big ****ing deal. All religions are ****ing stupid.

Kinda hard to say that any of the major religions are stupid, considering the amount of power they wield.

Actually they seem quite brilliant...

Onkel Neal · 11-13-09, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its the series of civil wars in England Ireland and Scotland, from England America got the Puritans and from Scotland it got the rednecks (presbyterian covenanters)

Ok, I was not talking about English rednecks. This is a whole different kind of redneck, not related to England and Puritans at all. Please don't trace the history of rednecks from the Crusades to the modern age.

UnderseaLcpl · 11-13-09, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

No you have a lot to learn, the Rednecks moved to what is now the USA. They were crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists who wanted a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.
Just like the crazy extremist backwards religious fundamentalists in the story want a new world order to purify the place against the ungodly global conspiracy.

Back then there was a bunch that had taken radical Lutheranism and pushed it to crazy extremist levels, now there is a bunch that has taken already crazy wahhibism and taken it to even crazier levels .

Come to think of it, some comedian the other day compared the American backwoods Rednecks (decended from Covenanter Rednecks) with the crazy clans in afghanistan or pakistan.
Hatfields and McCoys with Dostum and Karzai.

I'd like to pause the discussion right here and point to this shining example of rhetoric from an indoctrinated socialist.

As you can see, it has very little basis in fact.

Starting with the assumption that the first Anglican settlers in what would become the United States were "backwards religious fundamentalists" who entertained theories of "global conspiracy", and ending by labeling them as "rednecks", a term which has absolutely no relevance to the people of the day, Tribesman has demonstrated his complete inability to make an objective judgement with a basis in reality. This is not entirely surprising, as Tribesman hails from a centrist, and therefore, socialist nation.

Note the way that he distorts history in an attempt to rationalize the beliefs he has been taught. To most of us they appear ridiculous, but to him they are truth itself. He completely disregards the success of free societies in the modern world in favor of a dogma that has kept him and his people in the shackles of state control and religious violence. He has no idea why his nation is regarded as being "backwards" amongst other western nations, and he may not even realize why.

Is this kind of indoctrination that we want for our children? Do we want them to think for themselves or do we want them to embrace state indoctrination?

This is the "third" way. It is just an indirect route to the "second" way, which is socialism. The proponents of the "third way", like Tribesman, don't realize that they are opening Pandora's Box. Fiat power given to a fiat entity will invariably result in abuse of power. As the maxim goes: "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely". All they know is that they have a desire for change of some kind, and they are willing to trust a fiat monoply to effect it.

I fully expect Tribesman to post some brief response to all of this, but I expect that it will not be detailed or intelligent. If experience is any guide, he will be completely unable to defend his position, and he will resort to brief and cryptic remarks that imply his superiority.

What do you say, Tribesman?

Skybird · 11-12-09, 07:47 PM

What means "minority"? Haven't we linked to two separate independant British studies in the past four years, I think, and I mean full-blown academic studies, not just some radio station polls, showing that amongst the UK's Islamic males between 18 and 40 or 50, a hopping 40% want to overthrow the UK and explicitly defend the use of violence - if it cannot be done otherwise?

Haven't I linked to according studies from Germany over the past years showing that the offsprings of Muslim immigrants, especially Turkish people, in most cases showed to become even more orthodox than their parents ever have been, making mockery of the Gutmenschen-thesis that living in Western civilisation would "westernise" and soften up Islamic attitudes?

Why is it that over here it is always immigration groups from Muhammeddan countries causing troubles, refusing integration, resisting local culture, causing more troubles, raising special demands that no other immigration group ever has made, not the Eurpeans, not the Chiense, not the Japanese, not the Koreans, not the vietnamese, not the Africans, no the few south Americans findignt their way here, and not the North Americans - always muslim groups...?

Muhammad'S ideologic baby never wanted to be just one amongst equals. It was alway meant to become the one outstanding dominator standing above all others. It is a conqueror'S ideology, from A to Z, designed to justify expansion and aggression and to reduce hesitation of the peasants of the conquering army by declaring their aggression a religious noble duty. It is until today what all the bad tradition in Christianity during the Middle Age and the Age of Colonialism has been - just that we have have learned for the most part to move beyond that, and that we today relaise that our colonialistic policies were evil. Historically, the de,mand to dominate all others has always been raised in islam, even already at the days of muhammad, and it implicitly results from the Quran itself. It is even more a supremacist ideology than the Nazis' idea of the Herrenrasse - and it goes far beyond race, and Lebensraum in the East. Compared to Muhammad, Hitler was an almost modest man.

OF COURSE they want the buckingham Palace becoming a mosque -w hat do yiu think? Hell, in Germany even two chr8uhces already had been sold to Muslim communities who turned them into mosques - if that is no invitation to press for more, if that is no indication of that we are willing to hand over our own heritage to them!

Haven't the Suaids demanded - with the most arrogant naturalness you can ikagine - that they miust be compensated by qwetsern nations once their oil has run out? Why do you think this is? It's because everybody owes if not to the Saudi roaylty, then to Islam, that's why it is.

The goal of evolution is the Idlamic man and the Islamic global society, and since this is the natural goal, it will go theat way anyway, so Islam does not think of helping to increase the speed of this tranformation as something bad or illegal, but thinks of it as just imncrasing a very natural developement that would happen anyway. That is the theologic implication on which these things are founding. It's as if you help a chicken to get out of it's egg by braking the egg sheel with your fingertops to make it a bit easier for the little bird. Is that bad, is that evil...?

People are always so quick in pointing out that Islam says this peaceful thing, and that tolerant statement - just the context these Quran quotes are embedded in, the "as long as" and "but" and "if only the others do accept Islam's dominat role" - these contexts strangely always get ignored. But often the additonal quote putting all the peaceful tolerant se ntences form the Quran into relation are even on the same page, just some verses later or earlier.

so those Buckingham mospque lovers maybe are not a numerical majority of 50+ % - but they surely are anything but a small "minority".

Have I mentioned that the Germanpolcie is masisvely complaining about and is increaosngly handicapped in criminal prosectiuion becasue descriptions of suspects they are searcing for more and more opften are no longer including anythign that would allow to identitfy the suspect'S pshycial appearance with coming from theMiddle East or Turkey? What worth is a physical description of a suspect if it may no longer hint at his Middleeastern physical appearance? And why is a dewscption ,mentioning blond hair, whitr skin and a beard not considered to be discrimination? I mean - that description, that's me! I should not be offended by what they say Muslims feel offended of?

Bah, it's late over here, don't get me started. Neal, stop these Islamic threads of yours, you do my blood pressure no good service.

just because of you, by the EU's laws I can be prosecuted for having committed a hate crime with this posting, and being racist.

Lord, please let it rain brains - especially in Brussels.

11-12-09, 10:55 PM	#9
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11-12-09, 07:47 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What means "minority"? Haven't we linked to two separate independant British studies in the past four years, I think, and I mean full-blown academic studies, not just some radio station polls, showing that amongst the UK's Islamic males between 18 and 40 or 50, a hopping 40% want to overthrow the UK and explicitly defend the use of violence - if it cannot be done otherwise? Haven't I linked to according studies from Germany over the past years showing that the offsprings of Muslim immigrants, especially Turkish people, in most cases showed to become even more orthodox than their parents ever have been, making mockery of the Gutmenschen-thesis that living in Western civilisation would "westernise" and soften up Islamic attitudes? Why is it that over here it is always immigration groups from Muhammeddan countries causing troubles, refusing integration, resisting local culture, causing more troubles, raising special demands that no other immigration group ever has made, not the Eurpeans, not the Chiense, not the Japanese, not the Koreans, not the vietnamese, not the Africans, no the few south Americans findignt their way here, and not the North Americans - always muslim groups...? Muhammad'S ideologic baby never wanted to be just one amongst equals. It was alway meant to become the one outstanding dominator standing above all others. It is a conqueror'S ideology, from A to Z, designed to justify expansion and aggression and to reduce hesitation of the peasants of the conquering army by declaring their aggression a religious noble duty. It is until today what all the bad tradition in Christianity during the Middle Age and the Age of Colonialism has been - just that we have have learned for the most part to move beyond that, and that we today relaise that our colonialistic policies were evil. Historically, the de,mand to dominate all others has always been raised in islam, even already at the days of muhammad, and it implicitly results from the Quran itself. It is even more a supremacist ideology than the Nazis' idea of the Herrenrasse - and it goes far beyond race, and Lebensraum in the East. Compared to Muhammad, Hitler was an almost modest man. OF COURSE they want the buckingham Palace becoming a mosque -w hat do yiu think? Hell, in Germany even two chr8uhces already had been sold to Muslim communities who turned them into mosques - if that is no invitation to press for more, if that is no indication of that we are willing to hand over our own heritage to them! Haven't the Suaids demanded - with the most arrogant naturalness you can ikagine - that they miust be compensated by qwetsern nations once their oil has run out? Why do you think this is? It's because everybody owes if not to the Saudi roaylty, then to Islam, that's why it is. The goal of evolution is the Idlamic man and the Islamic global society, and since this is the natural goal, it will go theat way anyway, so Islam does not think of helping to increase the speed of this tranformation as something bad or illegal, but thinks of it as just imncrasing a very natural developement that would happen anyway. That is the theologic implication on which these things are founding. It's as if you help a chicken to get out of it's egg by braking the egg sheel with your fingertops to make it a bit easier for the little bird. Is that bad, is that evil...? People are always so quick in pointing out that Islam says this peaceful thing, and that tolerant statement - just the context these Quran quotes are embedded in, the "as long as" and "but" and "if only the others do accept Islam's dominat role" - these contexts strangely always get ignored. But often the additonal quote putting all the peaceful tolerant se ntences form the Quran into relation are even on the same page, just some verses later or earlier. so those Buckingham mospque lovers maybe are not a numerical majority of 50+ % - but they surely are anything but a small "minority". Have I mentioned that the Germanpolcie is masisvely complaining about and is increaosngly handicapped in criminal prosectiuion becasue descriptions of suspects they are searcing for more and more opften are no longer including anythign that would allow to identitfy the suspect'S pshycial appearance with coming from theMiddle East or Turkey? What worth is a physical description of a suspect if it may no longer hint at his Middleeastern physical appearance? And why is a dewscption ,mentioning blond hair, whitr skin and a beard not considered to be discrimination? I mean - that description, that's me! I should not be offended by what they say Muslims feel offended of? Bah, it's late over here, don't get me started. Neal, stop these Islamic threads of yours, you do my blood pressure no good service. just because of you, by the EU's laws I can be prosecuted for having committed a hate crime with this posting, and being racist. Lord, please let it rain brains - especially in Brussels. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-12-09, 06:48 PM	#1
Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 542 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	I didn't know that Islam was actually an economic system ... You learn something new every day.