Reasons to buy a new PC

scrapser · 11-09-09, 04:19 PM

I agree. But what you are saying is not a replacement of what I said. All of it is true. Once a person gets their feet wet, they will likely enhance their custom system with parts they could not get as part of a prebuilt computer because the company works off a profit formula much like what you described. And it's true that a homebuilt system will cost much less and delivery much more processing power for the same money spent on a prebuilt system, so you do in fact leverage your money. For myself, I took the savings and used it to upgrade to even higher end components so I ended up spending the same money but have much more bang for the buck. And of course, down the road I only have to replace parts as better tech comes out or something wears out. But I never have to buy a whole new computer ever again.

Sailor Steve · 11-09-09, 06:04 PM

Interesting discussion, especially for a thread that started out as a joke about making up reasons to give your wife as to why you absolutely have to have a new computer.

11-09-09, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapser

I agree. But what you are saying is not a replacement of what I said. All of it is true.

yep, i just wanted to be sure someone thinking about this for the first time knows its a big money saver first OR you can trade that money savings for major improvements in the system you end up with when your finished.

thats why i only clipped that one small part i felt could use a little extra explanation that it is strictly up to you if you want make it cost more

@ sailor steve, you are right sir

thread highjack is over, i now return you to your previously selected topic of reasons to give your wife as to why you absolutely have to have a new computer

Sailor Steve · 11-09-09, 08:14 PM

I didn't consider it a hijack, I just thought it was funny. I'm enjoying the discussion, as well as learning alot. I was just looking at what I thought was a pretty cool AMD rig at Best Buy, and thanks to you guys I went to NewEgg and found out that the one I was looking at was made up earlier versions of all the components, and I might actually find the latest and best for a better price. Now all I need is a book that tells an idiot how to do it.

mookiemookie · 11-09-09, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I didn't consider it a hijack, I just thought it was funny. I'm enjoying the discussion, as well as learning alot. I was just looking at what I thought was a pretty cool AMD rig at Best Buy, and thanks to you guys I went to NewEgg and found out that the one I was looking at was made up earlier versions of all the components, and I might actually find the latest and best for a better price. Now all I need is a book that tells an idiot how to do it.

Steve, check out ibuypower.com. You can custom configurate your computer and they put it all together for you and ship it out. I think the prices are fairly reasonable. I've bought my last 2 computers from them and have been very happy.

Lord Justice · 11-09-09, 08:47 PM

lol forgive me if i swayed the thread, i just gave the point to note on power supply for someone starting off as not to scare them. must say i had a feeling it may develop into a hardware debate. yes i hear the guys and feel like saying my bit as well.at least its positive guidance toward the new build. one thing that for some reason bugs me though is when someone has thier full spec rig list layed out for all to see!! as in, look what i got.

11-09-09, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Now all I need is a book that tells an idiot how to do it.

i've built several desktops but i dont think of myself as any kind of expert but i could help you with all your questions if you want, just PM me what your looking for help wise

Steeltrap · 11-10-09, 01:31 AM

So what do you think of these proposed specs?

Systemboard
Intel Core i7 - Intel X58 - Triple DDR3 - PCI-E 2.0 - SLI/CrossFireX, SATA RAID, 2 x Gb LAN (Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5)
Processor
Intel Core i7 950 (3.00Ghz) 8Mb Cache, Quad Core, LGA1366
CPU Fan
Cooler Master Hyper N520 Gaming CPU Cooler
Case
HAF-932 Gaming Tower, 11 Drive Bays, Red Extreme Cooling System (3 x 23cm Fans installed), Side Window
Power Supply
1200W Gigabyte (2 x VGA) Modular, Ultra-Low-Noise, 14cm Fan, 80% Efficiency
Memory
Corsair 6Gb, DDR3, 1600Mhz - Triple Channel, High Speed 8-8-8-24 Low Latency
Video
( CrossFireX ) Dual 1GB, ATI Radeon HD 5850, DDR5
Hard Drive
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300Gb SATA-II, 10000RPM, 16Mb
DVD
Blu-ray Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW), SATA (LG)
Sound
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium, Card Only, PCI-Express
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit OEM
S/Ware-1
Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 OEM (I need Office with Power Point for business work at home)
Warranty
3 Year On Site Hardware Warranty, Australia Wide via UEE

I've used Tom's Hardware site for years. I research components then go to a custom builder and discuss.

Curious to hear opinions, and what cost for which you think you could do it.

Cheers

p.s. as to reason? Well, my existing rig is 3 years old and, more importantly, the hard drive has crashed!!

Ilpalazzo · 11-10-09, 01:55 AM

Hope I'm not derailing here, but what is a better buy for a gamer: A 'high end' am3 (phenom II 965 I think?), or an i7 920 processor? Is the extra money for the i7 worth it? I keep mulling over this and I still haven't actually decided. I'm leaning toward the am3 to spend less money, but if the cost of the i7 is worth it then I'd be cool with it. I do intend to overclock. If I'm not mistaken stock and overclocked, that i7 920 is better than the highest amd.

11-10-09, 12:12 PM

gentlemen, i dont want us to get into discussing specifics like that our this will become a 30 page long computer hardware thread.

might i suggest those who are wanting to get into discussing specifics like that, look to a forum better suited for computer hardware and component questions?

i am a member at this sight http://forums.techpowerup.com/index.php

it is adware free and very very helpfull in quickly answering specific computer questions but you will need to register there to post.

i would caution that it does have quite a few "punks with superiority attitudes" so dont let them bug you and

they are also split into the preverbial intel/nvidia vs amd/ati camps so take any comment about which brand is best preferences with a grain of salt.

11-10-09, 12:26 PM

now lets get back to lying to our wives

Hylander_1314 · 11-16-09, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

So what do you think of these proposed specs?

Systemboard
Intel Core i7 - Intel X58 - Triple DDR3 - PCI-E 2.0 - SLI/CrossFireX, SATA RAID, 2 x Gb LAN (Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5)
Processor
Intel Core i7 950 (3.00Ghz) 8Mb Cache, Quad Core, LGA1366
CPU Fan
Cooler Master Hyper N520 Gaming CPU Cooler
Case
HAF-932 Gaming Tower, 11 Drive Bays, Red Extreme Cooling System (3 x 23cm Fans installed), Side Window
Power Supply
1200W Gigabyte (2 x VGA) Modular, Ultra-Low-Noise, 14cm Fan, 80% Efficiency
Memory
Corsair 6Gb, DDR3, 1600Mhz - Triple Channel, High Speed 8-8-8-24 Low Latency
Video
( CrossFireX ) Dual 1GB, ATI Radeon HD 5850, DDR5
Hard Drive
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300Gb SATA-II, 10000RPM, 16Mb
DVD
Blu-ray Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW), SATA (LG)
Sound
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium, Card Only, PCI-Express
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit OEM
S/Ware-1
Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 OEM (I need Office with Power Point for business work at home)
Warranty
3 Year On Site Hardware Warranty, Australia Wide via UEE

I've used Tom's Hardware site for years. I research components then go to a custom builder and discuss.

Curious to hear opinions, and what cost for which you think you could do it.

Cheers

p.s. as to reason? Well, my existing rig is 3 years old and, more importantly, the hard drive has crashed!!

Careful dude. The power company squeals when I fire my rig up, and that one looks even more powerful than mine

EvGA 780i mobo

Intel Core2 Extreme QX9650 Quadcore 4 cores @ ~3.00 ghz

2 Toshiba DVD /CD RW optical drives

2 EVGA 260 GTX vidcards in SLi

2 WD 500 Gb harddrives SATA

8 Gigs of OCZ SLi ram

Toughpower 1000 watt psu

All packed into an Antec 900 series case

And between the case and the components, there are 9 fans blasting away at high rpm.s

Also an Altec Lansing Dolby 5.1 surround speaker system that pumps 140 watts

And last of all a HannsG HG281D 28in monitor / HDTV

The neighbor's lights dim when this thing fires up.

I have a couple vids of WWII bombers and fighters doing fly-bys, and if I crank the volume, the house and surrounding ground shakes.

11-17-09, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Careful dude. The power company squeals when I fire my rig up, and that one looks even more powerful than mine

EvGA 780i mobo

Intel Core2 Extreme QX9650 Quadcore 4 cores @ ~3.00 ghz

2 Toshiba DVD /CD RW optical drives

2 EVGA 260 GTX vidcards in SLi

2 WD 500 Gb harddrives SATA

8 Gigs of OCZ SLi ram

Toughpower 1000 watt psu

All packed into an Antec 900 series case

And between the case and the components, there are 9 fans blasting away at high rpm.s

Also an Altec Lansing Dolby 5.1 surround speaker system that pumps 140 watts

And last of all a HannsG HG281D 28in monitor / HDTV

The neighbor's lights dim when this thing fires up.

I have a couple vids of WWII bombers and fighters doing fly-bys, and if I crank the volume, the house and surrounding ground shakes.

you guys forgot the most important hardware for those systems, remove the side window and install a small window a/c unit for all that heat you guys are making.

it must be like a small space heater running lol.

and monitors are putting out as much heat as pc's are nowadays

11-09-09, 04:19 PM	#1
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I agree. But what you are saying is not a replacement of what I said. All of it is true. Once a person gets their feet wet, they will likely enhance their custom system with parts they could not get as part of a prebuilt computer because the company works off a profit formula much like what you described. And it's true that a homebuilt system will cost much less and delivery much more processing power for the same money spent on a prebuilt system, so you do in fact leverage your money. For myself, I took the savings and used it to upgrade to even higher end components so I ended up spending the same money but have much more bang for the buck. And of course, down the road I only have to replace parts as better tech comes out or something wears out. But I never have to buy a whole new computer ever again. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

11-09-09, 06:04 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Interesting discussion, especially for a thread that started out as a joke about making up reasons to give your wife as to why you absolutely have to have a new computer. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-09-09, 08:14 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I didn't consider it a hijack, I just thought it was funny. I'm enjoying the discussion, as well as learning alot. I was just looking at what I thought was a pretty cool AMD rig at Best Buy, and thanks to you guys I went to NewEgg and found out that the one I was looking at was made up earlier versions of all the components, and I might actually find the latest and best for a better price. Now all I need is a book that tells an idiot how to do it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-10-09, 01:55 AM	#9
Ilpalazzo Frogman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 309 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Hope I'm not derailing here, but what is a better buy for a gamer: A 'high end' am3 (phenom II 965 I think?), or an i7 920 processor? Is the extra money for the i7 worth it? I keep mulling over this and I still haven't actually decided. I'm leaning toward the am3 to spend less money, but if the cost of the i7 is worth it then I'd be cool with it. I do intend to overclock. If I'm not mistaken stock and overclocked, that i7 920 is better than the highest amd. Last edited by Ilpalazzo; 11-10-09 at 02:12 AM.

11-09-09, 08:47 PM	#6
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	lol forgive me if i swayed the thread, i just gave the point to note on power supply for someone starting off as not to scare them. must say i had a feeling it may develop into a hardware debate. yes i hear the guys and feel like saying my bit as well.at least its positive guidance toward the new build. one thing that for some reason bugs me though is when someone has thier full spec rig list layed out for all to see!! as in, look what i got.

11-10-09, 01:31 AM	#8
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	So what do you think of these proposed specs? Systemboard Intel Core i7 - Intel X58 - Triple DDR3 - PCI-E 2.0 - SLI/CrossFireX, SATA RAID, 2 x Gb LAN (Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5) Processor Intel Core i7 950 (3.00Ghz) 8Mb Cache, Quad Core, LGA1366 CPU Fan Cooler Master Hyper N520 Gaming CPU Cooler Case HAF-932 Gaming Tower, 11 Drive Bays, Red Extreme Cooling System (3 x 23cm Fans installed), Side Window Power Supply 1200W Gigabyte (2 x VGA) Modular, Ultra-Low-Noise, 14cm Fan, 80% Efficiency Memory Corsair 6Gb, DDR3, 1600Mhz - Triple Channel, High Speed 8-8-8-24 Low Latency Video ( CrossFireX ) Dual 1GB, ATI Radeon HD 5850, DDR5 Hard Drive Western Digital VelociRaptor 300Gb SATA-II, 10000RPM, 16Mb DVD Blu-ray Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW), SATA (LG) Sound Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium, Card Only, PCI-Express Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit OEM S/Ware-1 Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 OEM (I need Office with Power Point for business work at home) Warranty 3 Year On Site Hardware Warranty, Australia Wide via UEE I've used Tom's Hardware site for years. I research components then go to a custom builder and discuss. Curious to hear opinions, and what cost for which you think you could do it. Cheers p.s. as to reason? Well, my existing rig is 3 years old and, more importantly, the hard drive has crashed!!

11-10-09, 12:12 PM	#10
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	gentlemen, i dont want us to get into discussing specifics like that our this will become a 30 page long computer hardware thread. might i suggest those who are wanting to get into discussing specifics like that, look to a forum better suited for computer hardware and component questions? i am a member at this sight http://forums.techpowerup.com/index.php it is adware free and very very helpfull in quickly answering specific computer questions but you will need to register there to post. i would caution that it does have quite a few "punks with superiority attitudes" so dont let them bug you and they are also split into the preverbial intel/nvidia vs amd/ati camps so take any comment about which brand is best preferences with a grain of salt.

11-10-09, 12:26 PM	#11
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	now lets get back to lying to our wives