EU Constitution...errr I mean "Lisbon Treaty"

SS107.9MHz · 11-06-09, 11:02 AM

Two time consecutive, in for the second term, Portuguese Prime-minister

G.K. · 11-07-09, 09:15 AM

Czechs (Or at least me) are sorry for this.

Noone asked the Czech people about their opinion, it was the decision of our politicans.
Sometimes I think president Klaus is the only politician here who still uses his brain, speaking about both EU and climate change.

Shearwater · 11-07-09, 09:50 AM

If you don't like it, why did you join the EU in the first place?

XabbaRus · 11-07-09, 10:43 AM

Because at the time the EU was a trading block to make trade within Europe simpler and some useful things like have one set of standards for a particular product across all the countried in the EU meaning you don't have to recertify your product to a coutries standards that differ from your own.

It has now grown out of control.

Jimbuna · 11-07-09, 01:59 PM

Precisely...we are an island nation...time to pull out I reckon. If we can afford to

Shearwater · 11-07-09, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Because at the time the EU was a trading block to make trade within Europe simpler and some useful things like have one set of standards for a particular product across all the countried in the EU meaning you don't have to recertify your product to a coutries standards that differ from your own.

It has now grown out of control.

That's true, but that process had already been well underway before the Central and Eastern European countries decided to join

The main problem to me is the lack of democratic control. I don't oppose a more integrated Europe (or at least the idea), but I understand that many people feel that they're not in control of the process anymore (if that has ever been the case). Opposition is good and necessary, but I would like to see it coming from elected European institutions (like e.g. the European Parliament), not appointed EU representatives or national governments, which often ride the populist ticket (which is often how I perceive the Czech and the Polish governments).

badhat17 · 11-07-09, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shearwater

Opposition is good and necessary, but I would like to see it coming from elected European institutions (like e.g. the European Parliament), not appointed EU representatives or national governments, which often ride the populist ticket (which is often how I perceive the Czech and the Polish governments).

Do you expect to get opposition from those that are riding a 400k PA gravy train ?

11-06-09, 11:02 AM	#1
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11-07-09, 09:15 AM	#2
G.K. Loader Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Anchoring at Vltava River, Czech Republic Posts: 84 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Czechs (Or at least me) are sorry for this. Noone asked the Czech people about their opinion, it was the decision of our politicans. Sometimes I think president Klaus is the only politician here who still uses his brain, speaking about both EU and climate change. __________________ http://silenthunter.cz/forum Proud officer of the biggest Czech SH Community

11-07-09, 10:43 AM	#4
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Because at the time the EU was a trading block to make trade within Europe simpler and some useful things like have one set of standards for a particular product across all the countried in the EU meaning you don't have to recertify your product to a coutries standards that differ from your own. It has now grown out of control. __________________

11-07-09, 01:59 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,992 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Precisely...we are an island nation...time to pull out I reckon. If we can afford to __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 542 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	If you don't like it, why did you join the EU in the first place?