So I tried SH4 again an still like SH3 better.

looney · 11-04-09, 06:39 AM

Biggest problem for me was the fact that it was a winning war for the US subs. As a result you'll be shooting far less torps than you do in SH3.

Atlantic was a battle... Pacific was a turkeyshoot.

The fact I have widescreen monitor only limits my fun of SH3.. when peering trhough the sehrohr and click the torp selection is screwed again.

All in all I find myself commanding a IXD2 most of the time.

Abd_von_Mumit · 11-04-09, 08:13 AM

What is that SH4 you speak of so much, fellows?

Never bought it, never seen it. I knew before it was released that Pacific was not the theatre for me. We had a thread here "Would you pay SH4 when it's released" and I said "No I wouldn't". And I didn't. Now I see it was a right decision to make.

norc24601 · 11-04-09, 09:46 AM

I myself keep going back to SH3. I use GWX + ManosGUI (with OLC) + SH3Commander and thanks to those guys, SH3 feels like a whole new experience beyond what was presumably intended by Ubisoft. My only gripes are lack of stock mission variety and lack of transparent water (I know they probably are shallow gripes, but that's how I feel).

I actually like SH4 interface (I only use GFO) and still able to appreciate the art of manual targeting although XO's input kinda bumps me off a little. I also like the tenacity of the DDs. However, my *major* gripe is that I can slip into a port and wreak havoc without notable retribution from the destroyer guards; after 2 times reaping more than 100,000grt per-patrol only because I eventually got bored chasing convoys and did harbor raids, I transferred back to the Atlantic.

Ping Jockey · 11-05-09, 08:43 AM

I have always liked SH3 over SH4. I just hope SH5 is more like SH3!

Zilch · 11-05-09, 11:29 AM

Eeeeerhhh...I don't see how a boycott would help the industry at all. Sub sims are already a niche market. We should be buying more, not less.

Draka · 11-05-09, 01:24 PM

I don't think it is truly a boycott - an organized effort to reduce sales - as it is just a matter of preferance. I play SH3 - because I prefer the ATO and the intense, relatively dense ASW environment. It truly makes a difference when a U-boat has to worry about air attacks as soon as he leaves the sub pen - versus an American sub leaving Pearl having a 2000-mile journey to the nearest enemy. That is just ONE of the differences - and as I have limited disposable income I chose to do the ATO as opposed to the PTO.

Not to mention some of us still have computers that are from the last century ..... SH3 runs, SH4 not so much.... hell, I can't even use WAC, as much as I want to try that out!

JU_88 · 11-04-09, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

What is that SH4 you speak of so much, fellows?

Never bought it, never seen it. I knew before it was released that Pacific was not the theatre for me. We had a thread here "Would you pay SH4 when it's released" and I said "No I wouldn't". And I didn't. Now I see it was a right decision to make.

Well not really mate, because you got to look at the big picture.
The future of the Silent Hunter franchise relies on the support of all subsimmers regardless of theater preference.
E.g if enough of the PTO fan base boycott ATO based SHV, they are potentially harming the possibility of a PTO based SHVI.
and visa versa.
$50 is not large some of money to part with once every 3 years.
You reap what you sew.

Abd_von_Mumit · 11-04-09, 03:08 PM

To be honest I don't know what the ATO/PTO issue is, but you made me curious to check it immediately. The boycotte you mentioned sounds quite alarming.

Task Force · 11-04-09, 03:19 PM

I didnt really like SH4... It lacks the same feel... sh3 felt more like it should... Maby it is because I never got into the PTO... always been more intrested in the ETO/ATO...

The german part or SH4 also (no offence to any of the modders, you did great) felt kind of shoved in, but not really part of the game...

diggercam88 · 11-04-09, 03:24 PM

Bought them both very recently! I am much more pleased with SHIII and uninstalled SHWOTP. SHIII just seems more involved and real. IMO

kaptkirkU4467 · 11-05-09, 08:29 AM

After taking a hammer to the SH IV disk months ago...I bought it again.

SH IV's major fault is the cartoon look and feel vs SH3's "real" grafix rendering.

I still play both...but SH3 still gets top billing in the CD tray.

11-04-09, 08:13 AM	#2
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	What is that SH4 you speak of so much, fellows? Never bought it, never seen it. I knew before it was released that Pacific was not the theatre for me. We had a thread here "Would you pay SH4 when it's released" and I said "No I wouldn't". And I didn't. Now I see it was a right decision to make. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

11-05-09, 08:43 AM	#4
Ping Jockey Medic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 159 Downloads: 294 Uploads: 0	I have always liked SH3 over SH4. I just hope SH5 is more like SH3! __________________ I joined the U S Navy in 1964. Saw the world and a lot more.

11-05-09, 11:29 AM	#5
Zilch Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 118 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Eeeeerhhh...I don't see how a boycott would help the industry at all. Sub sims are already a niche market. We should be buying more, not less. __________________ Depth charges pounding your flanges loose? Hedgehogs dislodging your precious bulkheads? Use Beemans Gum! Freshens breath and doubles as an adhesive in a pinch. The gum of choice aboard U-54!

11-04-09, 03:08 PM	#8
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	To be honest I don't know what the ATO/PTO issue is, but you made me curious to check it immediately. The boycotte you mentioned sounds quite alarming. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

11-04-09, 03:19 PM	#9
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I didnt really like SH4... It lacks the same feel... sh3 felt more like it should... Maby it is because I never got into the PTO... always been more intrested in the ETO/ATO... The german part or SH4 also (no offence to any of the modders, you did great) felt kind of shoved in, but not really part of the game... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

11-04-09, 06:39 AM	#1
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Biggest problem for me was the fact that it was a winning war for the US subs. As a result you'll be shooting far less torps than you do in SH3. Atlantic was a battle... Pacific was a turkeyshoot. The fact I have widescreen monitor only limits my fun of SH3.. when peering trhough the sehrohr and click the torp selection is screwed again. All in all I find myself commanding a IXD2 most of the time.

11-04-09, 09:46 AM	#3
norc24601 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: undisclosed Posts: 13 Downloads: 327 Uploads: 0	I myself keep going back to SH3. I use GWX + ManosGUI (with OLC) + SH3Commander and thanks to those guys, SH3 feels like a whole new experience beyond what was presumably intended by Ubisoft. My only gripes are lack of stock mission variety and lack of transparent water (I know they probably are shallow gripes, but that's how I feel). I actually like SH4 interface (I only use GFO) and still able to appreciate the art of manual targeting although XO's input kinda bumps me off a little. I also like the tenacity of the DDs. However, my major gripe is that I can slip into a port and wreak havoc without notable retribution from the destroyer guards; after 2 times reaping more than 100,000grt per-patrol only because I eventually got bored chasing convoys and did harbor raids, I transferred back to the Atlantic.

11-05-09, 01:24 PM	#6
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	I don't think it is truly a boycott - an organized effort to reduce sales - as it is just a matter of preferance. I play SH3 - because I prefer the ATO and the intense, relatively dense ASW environment. It truly makes a difference when a U-boat has to worry about air attacks as soon as he leaves the sub pen - versus an American sub leaving Pearl having a 2000-mile journey to the nearest enemy. That is just ONE of the differences - and as I have limited disposable income I chose to do the ATO as opposed to the PTO. Not to mention some of us still have computers that are from the last century ..... SH3 runs, SH4 not so much.... hell, I can't even use WAC, as much as I want to try that out!

11-04-09, 03:24 PM	#10
diggercam88 Watch Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Atlantic Posts: 27 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Bought them both very recently! I am much more pleased with SHIII and uninstalled SHWOTP. SHIII just seems more involved and real. IMO __________________ " I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom." Yours, very sincerely and respectfully, A. Lincoln

11-05-09, 08:29 AM	#11
kaptkirkU4467 Navy Dude Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ft.White Florida Posts: 178 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	After taking a hammer to the SH IV disk months ago...I bought it again. SH IV's major fault is the cartoon look and feel vs SH3's "real" grafix rendering. I still play both...but SH3 still gets top billing in the CD tray. __________________ G/K Worldwide: Making your life miserable since 2002 ! K.R.A.P. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=240