Turkey: an ally no more

baggygreen · 10-30-09, 07:06 AM

I've only ever considered Turkey was viewed as an ally of convenience. Their embracing of their more traditional counterparts should come as no surprise to anyone.

Ever so slightly off topic, but a thought came to me last night and I want to run it past you for some thoughts.

Islam is where christianity was 500 or even 400 years ago. Note I'm not calling them backward, so please hear me out.

their religion is the preeminent driving force behind all they do.
women for the most part have so few rights compared to menfolk
the 'enlightened' clergy decide whats best for the populace (somewhat generalised, i know)
islam is expanding from its traditional base to encompass more and more of the world. It is imposing itself on the populations of the new lands it is encountering, much like those in the new world and asia.

It stands to reason I suppose, that Islam is acting in a similar fashion to christianity, albeit several centuries later - both stem from judaism, and islam came several centuries after christianity.

What it also does is provide for an interesting discussion I think on the course or evolution of religion, which i suspect I'll cover in a university paper early next year.

thoughts?

10-30-09, 08:46 AM

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It is an inherent claim of Islam that wherever it puts its foot on the ground, that ground by that now is of Islam's and shall NEVER be given up again.

I can see why you like Daniel Pipes, you both come from the same tree.

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I've only ever considered Turkey was viewed as an ally of convenience.

All allies are allies of convenience really.

10-30-09, 07:06 AM	#1
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I've only ever considered Turkey was viewed as an ally of convenience. Their embracing of their more traditional counterparts should come as no surprise to anyone. Ever so slightly off topic, but a thought came to me last night and I want to run it past you for some thoughts. Islam is where christianity was 500 or even 400 years ago. Note I'm not calling them backward, so please hear me out. their religion is the preeminent driving force behind all they do. women for the most part have so few rights compared to menfolk the 'enlightened' clergy decide whats best for the populace (somewhat generalised, i know) islam is expanding from its traditional base to encompass more and more of the world. It is imposing itself on the populations of the new lands it is encountering, much like those in the new world and asia. It stands to reason I suppose, that Islam is acting in a similar fashion to christianity, albeit several centuries later - both stem from judaism, and islam came several centuries after christianity. What it also does is provide for an interesting discussion I think on the course or evolution of religion, which i suspect I'll cover in a university paper early next year. thoughts?