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10-13-09, 07:02 AM

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I don't think so, but I graduated HS in 1979.

Exactly, there was no major difference in real levels of knife crime back then , but the perception would have been different.
There certainly wasn't an idea of zero tolerance policies which are just a popular lazy reaction to knee jerk hysteria.
If you had graduated another 20 years earlier there also wouldn't have been a major difference in real levels of knife crime and it would be considered perfectly normal or even expected for a young boy to carry a knife.

XabbaRus · 10-13-09, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo

??? This isn't 1979.

I'm not sure what you are meaning but this thread did start to get a little heated....

Glad to see it is staying reasonable.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-09, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Maybe so, but you do a pretty good job on keeping the violence level high on that side of the pond.

Strictly for your entertainment only.

Dowly · 10-13-09, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Strictly for your entertainment only.

I am extremely happy to see that US is taking our future world domination plans seriously and are trying to please us whenever possible.

August · 10-13-09, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

They're a bit like the brilliant three strikes laws, which can sentence someone to life in prison for shoplifting.

No they aren't at all alike. In the first instance we're talking about a child who, like the Scout in the op, may not have had any violent intentions at all compared to a criminal who made three conscious decisions to commit a crime.

IMO, the former ought to be given some latitude, the latter none at all.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-09, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I am extremely happy to see that US is taking our future world domination plans seriously and are trying to please us whenever possible.

We AIM to please...that is our motto.

10-13-09, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo

I guess you don't mind the blacks not considered as a part of the US.

Never heard that before. But that shows how misinformed you are. I consider blacks a part of the US, citizens in fact. Like the rest of the folks in the US everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions.

Asd of now more blacks are taking the lives of other blacks at a greater rate than any other demographic. I guess you will call that racist.

But then Fns are racist by calling the US violent.

Now you see how useless the term is when used in the vaccum in which you used it.

How should the blacks be responsible for being brought over as slaves and then having been placed in ghettos and segregated from the society etc.? Don't the whites have any responsibility over any of this?

I call poor living standards in the ghetto poor living standards in the ghetto.

Criticising nations is not the same thing as criticising ethnic groups.

Finns have never had any slaves and we haven't pursued a segregationist policy regarding our minorities.

SteamWake · 10-13-09, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We AIM to please...that is our motto.

LOL theres a local bar that has a sign in the mens room over the urinals.

"We aim to please, You aim too please"

10-13-09, 04:39 PM

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Finns have never had any slaves

Its sort of true if you stretch it, Finns have never had any slaves since the time the Swedes abolished slavery...unless of course they had slaves elsewhere.

SteamWake · 10-13-09, 05:09 PM

How in the heck did this become a discussion on race and slavery

10-13-09, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its sort of true if you stretch it, Finns have never had any slaves since the time the Swedes abolished slavery...unless of course they had slaves elsewhere.

Sorry but you're not making any sense.

August · 10-13-09, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

How should the blacks be responsible for being brought over as slaves and then having been placed in ghettos and segregated from the society etc.? Don't the whites have any responsibility over any of this?

You're white. How much responsibility do you bear for this?

Dowly · 10-13-09, 07:28 PM

As for slavery in Finland, OTH is quite right in that there have not been any widespread/general slavery here (I'm pretty sure that was the case when we were under Swedish/Russian rule aswell). Which is propably why Finland doesnt have any laws specifially dealing with slavery.

Dowly · 10-13-09, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by August

You're white. How much responsibility do you bear for this?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the white population in the US (surely you knew that before posting?

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10-13-09, 07:50 PM

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I'm pretty sure he was referring to the white population in the US

What about if it was a white American who had emigrated from Finland?
How about a native American whose ancestors kept slaves?
Maybe a fella from Mauritania living in the US but still having slaves back home.
It does imply that Herrings white American guilt idea is bollox.

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As for slavery in Finland, OTH is quite right in that there have not been any widespread/general slavery here (I'm pretty sure that was the case when we were under Swedish/Russian rule aswell).

Finland had slavery abolished by the Swedes in the 14th C.
Then later when Russia took over they didn't extend the policy of serfdom into the dutchy

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	As for slavery in Finland, OTH is quite right in that there have not been any widespread/general slavery here (I'm pretty sure that was the case when we were under Swedish/Russian rule aswell). Which is propably why Finland doesnt have any laws specifially dealing with slavery.