HOTAS in a subsim

martes86 · 10-04-09, 11:28 AM

TrackIR, why not?
Joystick, definitely not.
If you want realistic controls, go get 2 engine telegraphs, 2 dive planes control rudders, a steering rudder control, 2 depth meters, 2 dive planes meters... I'd definitely enjoy taking all that and showing it at Campus Party Valencia (where I went in 2006, 2007, and 2009, always the last week of july), where flightsimmers take even whole IL2 cocpicts.

THAT would be cool, to be able to have all sorts of tangible controls instead of getting it all in the screen. And combining that with multi-station multiplayer, that would make it possible that we could build our own real-scale control room and have all output/input shown there. But since there's no such thing for subsims (not that I wouldn't love to have it), having anything else would just make it tremendously irealistic. Only TrackIR seems to be a fairly logical choice.

Cheers

Ilpalazzo · 10-04-09, 11:48 AM

I'm trying to picture myself using my x52 hotas in silent hunter. I'm drawing a blank. I see absoluetely no use for it.

If you want a more 'hands on' gameplay you should try playing with voice recognition. I tried that. It was awesome when it worked right. Sometimes though, it didn't work right. Maybe I'd say 'ahead standard' and then the game would say 'firing torpedo!'. Or 'stop' - 'crash dive'. Yea that was annoying after the umpteenth time. I've since gotten a better mic though, so maybe I should give it another try.

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Originally Posted by martes86

THAT would be cool, to be able to have all sorts of tangible controls instead of getting it all in the screen. And combining that with multi-station multiplayer, that would make it possible that we could build our own real-scale control room and have all output/input shown there. But since there's no such thing for subsims (not that I wouldn't love to have it), having anything else would just make it tremendously irealistic. Only TrackIR seems to be a fairly logical choice.

heh that would be fantastic. On a related note. I would love to see the hilarity ensue in a silent hunter multiplayer mode where each player plays their own major role on the same sub. There be one frustrated captain!

goldorak · 10-04-09, 12:39 PM

Why is using a HOTAS more stupid than using a keyboard ?

Unless you have a replica of a WWII submarine control room, any controller you'll use on a pc is good.
None will give you the immersion of a real life sub control room though.
So a HOTAS can be as good as a crummy old keyboard + mouse.

So to the OP that wants to use a HOTAS : go ahead, just program it so that all relevant controls are mapped to the different keys on the controller and you're good to go.

Hartmann · 10-04-09, 01:05 PM

why not ??

it´s not vital like in a flight sim but could be useful and interesting for some people. at least as a option.

you can have two important controls in the joystick, rudder and dive planes, and buttons for specific orders , crash dive, silent running , blow ballast...

Ilpalazzo · 10-04-09, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

So to the OP that wants to use a HOTAS : go ahead, just program it so that all relevant controls are mapped to the different keys on the controller and you're good to go.

True. Nothing stopping anybody from simply making a profile for whatever game.

GoldenRivet · 10-04-09, 02:15 PM

Trak IR would be nice... HOTAS, i dont see much point- because as the commander you are not really directly manipulating controls.

10-04-09, 01:05 PM	#4
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	why not ?? it´s not vital like in a flight sim but could be useful and interesting for some people. at least as a option. you can have two important controls in the joystick, rudder and dive planes, and buttons for specific orders , crash dive, silent running , blow ballast... __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Trak IR would be nice... HOTAS, i dont see much point- because as the commander you are not really directly manipulating controls. __________________

10-04-09, 11:28 AM	#1
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	TrackIR, why not? Joystick, definitely not. If you want realistic controls, go get 2 engine telegraphs, 2 dive planes control rudders, a steering rudder control, 2 depth meters, 2 dive planes meters... I'd definitely enjoy taking all that and showing it at Campus Party Valencia (where I went in 2006, 2007, and 2009, always the last week of july), where flightsimmers take even whole IL2 cocpicts. THAT would be cool, to be able to have all sorts of tangible controls instead of getting it all in the screen. And combining that with multi-station multiplayer, that would make it possible that we could build our own real-scale control room and have all output/input shown there. But since there's no such thing for subsims (not that I wouldn't love to have it), having anything else would just make it tremendously irealistic. Only TrackIR seems to be a fairly logical choice. Cheers

10-04-09, 12:39 PM	#3
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why is using a HOTAS more stupid than using a keyboard ? Unless you have a replica of a WWII submarine control room, any controller you'll use on a pc is good. None will give you the immersion of a real life sub control room though. So a HOTAS can be as good as a crummy old keyboard + mouse. So to the OP that wants to use a HOTAS : go ahead, just program it so that all relevant controls are mapped to the different keys on the controller and you're good to go.