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Old 10-02-09, 10:47 PM   #1
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Perhaps because Chicago is not a good spot for the Olympics and also because hosting the Olympics is often a very costly operation which ends up costing the taxpayers a lot of money?

Not everything is about Obama.
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Old 10-02-09, 11:15 PM   #2
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Perhaps because Chicago is not a good spot for the Olympics and also because hosting the Olympics is often a very costly operation which ends up costing the taxpayers a lot of money?

Not everything is about Obama.
True, but it did become about him once he injected himself into something not requiring Presidential intervention. Something he seems to have a problem with. And wasted alot of taxpayer dollars doing it. And Obama obviously disagrees with your assessment regarding Chicago as the locale. He seemed to think it would be a great spot.

It didn't have to be about the President. He made it about him. And so people will discuss it.
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Old 10-03-09, 01:43 AM   #3
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Given a choice, if I go to see the Olympics, I'd much rather go to Rio than Chicago. I'm glad they got it, happy for them. I hope they do a good job with it.


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Well, I'm not happy about where the Olympics will be happening. I couldn't care less about any of that.
Then why did you post in this thread? Just another opportunity to slam someone maybe?

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Personally, I'm laughing about the whole matter because Obama's presidency
And' we're all so proud of our last President, now aren't we.

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(according to liberals last fall) was supposed to "restore" respect and admiration to the USA....... it's so apparent that his presidency garners no respect or admiration for the USA as believed.
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact we invaded another country for no good reason, and our own system of greed has caused worldwide econimc crisis.... Nah. This all happened right after the last election. Before that, the world loved us. Really they did, Rush said so.

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That is what I enjoy watching. The Olympics are not the issue here for me at all.
Just the opportunity to blame a failure on someone is an issue in itself?

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I would like to see Obama succeed in the war in Afghanistan. But that remains in doubt as he's bumbling that effort totally with no strategy or vision.
Unlike the outstanding strategy and vision that took us into Iraq, and led the war in Afghanistan since 2001. Now it's all Obama's fault because he hasn't cleaned up this mess in less than 1 year. I just love this thinking.

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Up to and including comparing our soldiers to Nazi's and other such nonsense.
<ALAAAAAAAARRRRMMMM.... Godwin's Law has been invoked, thread nullified.

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I'm hoping some of you liberals see this situation here for what it is.
Some do. The current President is having to play out the worst hand ever dealt to a President in history. This all didn't start in November 2008, it all existed by then. Every item you're bitching about is a legacy item. Now your mad because the mess isn't over yet. Well Bubbah, it's going to take a while to mop up all this crap left behind.

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Goes to show, even when you guys win...you lose. Unfortunately you drag us down with you.
Not that any of the dragging down didn't happen over the last eight years, now did it.


Every time I read crapola like this, I get this mental image of;

someone in a mullet
sitting in a garage sale lazy boy
pile of empty beer cans next to bare feet
tank top
unshaven
beer gut from hell
14 yellow teeth
TV tuned to wrestling or Roller Derby
covered with issues of Solder of Fortune
and Guns and Ammo
wife with perpetual rollers
in a Wal-mart bathrobe
pink fuzzy slippers
20 year old multicolored pickup outside
tuned to AM radio
knob ducktaped to tune in Rush only
on blocks
with a full gun rack
in the yard that hasn't been mowed in years
except for the well worn path to the mailbox
which is checked daily for;
unpaid tax notices
food stamps
unemployment check
welfare check
the "get government grants catalog"
orderad at 2;00am on a weekday
found in an informercial

and both sitting inside telling each other that Obama has ruined my country.
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Old 10-03-09, 01:58 AM   #4
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Couldn't have anything to do with the fact we invaded another country for no good reason, and our own system of greed has caused worldwide econimc crisis.... Nah.
Wow, Michael Moore ... didn't know you posted here! Can I have your autograph?
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Some do. The current President is having to play out the worst hand ever dealt to a President in history.
Really? Are you serious? If that is your perspective on history, you sure your ranting and raving lunacy of a list isn't really simply autobiographical?

Ever hear of someone named Roosevelt, you know, who took office in the midst of THE Great Depression?

Seriously, maybe Obama could actually get something done if you could let go of his crotch, please.
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Every time I read crapola like this, I get this mental image of;

someone in a mullet
sitting in a garage sale lazy boy
pile of empty beer cans next to bare feet
tank top
unshaven
beer gut from hell
14 yellow teeth
TV tuned to wrestling or Roller Derby
covered with issues of Solder of Fortune
and Guns and Ammo
wife with perpetual rollers
in a Wal-mart bathrobe
pink fuzzy slippers
20 year old multicolored pickup outside
tuned to AM radio
knob ducktaped to tune in Rush only
on blocks
with a full gun rack
in the yard that hasn't been mowed in years
except for the well worn path to the mailbox
which is checked daily for;
unpaid tax notices
food stamps
unemployment check
welfare check
the "get government grants catalog"
orderad at 2;00am on a weekday
found in an informercial

and both sitting inside telling each other that Obama has ruined my country.
Liberal elitism at its finest.

Don't agree with the leftists? You're just trailer-trash lacking any education or sense of logical reasoning. I mean, we all know that leftists are the smart ones - you know, people who construct their arguments out of how they WANT the world to work versus how it actually does are definitely superior...

Everytime I read crapola like the end of your post, I get this mental image of someone working at an ACORN office attempting to "help" a hooker and pimp import underage girls for sex.

Yeah, that's a pretty stupid image to get, right? Kind of like yours.
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Old 10-03-09, 02:19 AM   #5
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Liberal elitism at its finest
Who said I was a liberal? I don't have any party affiliation, I'm not left or right. I'm just an American, watching my country be torn apart from the inside. We don't need to be attacked, we're doing a fine job of destroying it ourselves.

My point is, things are what they are. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out with blind hatred and spit on every move Obama makes. Maybe if all us "Americans", left, right, middle, whatever, start working together for common goals we might accomplish something.

I don't agree with many things Obama is doing. But he is my President, and this is my country. I'm going to do my part to help it, not hurt it.


<couldn't refute any of the other points I made? Just picked the easy ones I see. You only heard what you wanted and skipped the truths.>
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Old 10-03-09, 04:08 AM   #6
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True, but it did become about him once he injected himself into something not requiring Presidential intervention.
You omit that he was already involved before he became President, and that he stepped back from that involvement once elected and only renewed it when America became the only country bidding that didn't have its leader pushing for the bid.

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Ever hear of someone named Roosevelt, you know, who took office in the midst of THE Great Depression?
Roosevelt didn't take office in the middle of a economic disaster and two seriously screwed up military campaigns while having to threaten one nut that they can't do anything about and pretending to threaten another nut though did he.
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Old 10-03-09, 04:15 AM   #7
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Who said I was a liberal? I don't have any party affiliation, I'm not left or right.
Is this a joke?

Liberalism and party affiliations are two different things, by the way. But your comment on our "system of greed" is CLEARLY liberal.
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I'm just an American, watching my country be torn apart from the inside. We don't need to be attacked, we're doing a fine job of destroying it ourselves.
Well, I agree there ... except I don't see the conservatives doing so. Rather, I see Obama sycophants such as yourself making excuses and otherwise accepting blunder after blunder, which is empowering our national rift, as it were.
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My point is, things are what they are. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out with blind hatred and spit on every move Obama makes.
That's good for you. In fact, I feel the same way.

However, if what you said was true and Obama was dealt the toughest hand ever given to a president (although that's not even close), why the hell was he in Copenhagen rather than working on more important issues?
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Maybe if all us "Americans", left, right, middle, whatever, start working together for common goals we might accomplish something.
That would be great, but the problem with your statement is that we all don't share "common goals". In fact, Obama's goals are turning out to be far left of what the common American wants.
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I don't agree with many things Obama is doing. But he is my President, and this is my country. I'm going to do my part to help it, not hurt it.
That's hilarious. So when the lefties were protesting the moves of Bush, that's "helping" but when conservatives protest Obama, that's hurting the country?

Right.
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LOL! Heard what I wanted? Actually, I simply read what YOU wrote. If it isn't what you meant, than going forward I suggest you restrict yourself to statements reflecting your actual meanings.

Yes, I skipped over other parts of your post - parts that either don't concern me or don't interest me - and commented on the "easy ones" (kind of wondering why you wrote them if they were so easy to refute).

If there's a particular point related to the points I was countering with, that you'd like me to comment on, let me know. I'll refute that as well, if it's something I disagree with.
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Old 10-03-09, 04:18 AM   #8
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Roosevelt didn't take office in the middle of a economic disaster and two seriously screwed up military campaigns while having to threaten one nut that they can't do anything about and pretending to threaten another nut though did he.
I would suggest reading up a little bit about the economic and international climate Roosevelt inherited in 1932.

Obama's challenges aren't even on the same scale.

And, let's not forget that Obama comes into office with his party having had control of both houses of congress for the previous two years (including one that he was a member of).
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Old 10-03-09, 04:31 AM   #9
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Who said I was a liberal? I don't have any party affiliation, I'm not left or right. I'm just an American, watching my country be torn apart from the inside. We don't need to be attacked, we're doing a fine job of destroying it ourselves.

Some do. The current President is having to play out the worst hand ever dealt to a President in history. This all didn't start in November 2008, it all existed by then. Every item you're bitching about is a legacy item. Now your mad because the mess isn't over yet. Well Bubbah, it's going to take a while to mop up all this crap left behind.
I've seen your posts. You are a shill for Democrats in almost everything you post. The fact is, the Obama administration has taken a national deficit, and made it 4 times worse. And apparently, he isn't done yet with increasing the national deficit. The way he and the Democrats are currently going, it's never going to be mopped up. He's going in the wrong direction. And nothing you can post will correct it. The previous Presidential administration was a godsend compared to this mess currently in the making. And at least we had a modus of respect. And a President focused on National security. Yes, we were hated, but this administration is an utter joke. We are still hated, but now a laughing stock as well. The Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and North Koreans have done things recently to reinforce this notion. And this rejection by the IOC towards Obama shows that the thinking that Obama would bring some sort of respect to the USA was crap. Obama uses the office of the POTUS like a teenager in a popularity contest. It's totally embarrassing. And needs to be pointed out.


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My point is, things are what they are. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out with blind hatred and spit on every move Obama makes. Maybe if all us "Americans", left, right, middle, whatever, start working together for common goals we might accomplish something.
But you speak as though you have blind support for somebody attempting to nationalize vast amounts of our economy to the detriment of taxpayers. In addition, you seem to support a vast increase to our national debt by shilling for this devastating administration that can't get it's nose out of things it has no business getting itself into. Like where the Olympics will take place for example. I agree that Americans must work together to make things correct. But most Americans share none of the goals of statists and big government leftists. Therefore, you can forget accomplishing what they want. Americans are not going to get onboard socialist claptrap just to get along. Perhaps you guys should have got onboard with taxpayer freedom, and fighting a common enemy (Islamic terrorists) when we had a President who gave a damn about those issues. Now we got a President who's condemning us to failure and deficit growth in ways the previous administration wouldn't dare take us.

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I don't agree with many things Obama is doing. But he is my President, and this is my country. I'm going to do my part to help it, not hurt it.
How sweet. Yet, blind support for an administration that has bastardized and forgotten the war and terrorism, is tepid on their response to Iranian and North Korean efforts to nuke up, is weakening missile shield efforts, is attempting to unilaterally disarm our nuclear arsenal while China and Russia build up and advance their nuclear arsenals, continue policies that are increasing unemployment, is exploding the deficit and debts, all the while he and his wife are living like royalty at taxpayer expense does not inspire anything from me. He is indeed the President unfortunately. And history will record....a great mistake for our country. I'm doing my part to help this country by not allowing this administration carte blanche in destroying Americans freedoms, free markets, capitalism, and standing against it's big government nationalization of industries. I'm helping this country by standing for the liberty of taxpayers and citizens against this administration and the looting class that elected him.

Make no mistake, blind support for this administration does not help our country.
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I would suggest reading up a little bit about the economic and international climate Roosevelt inherited in 1932.
Was America stuck in two campaigns one of which is very expensive and highly unlikely to produce any positive result, and the other which is very expensive and is already shown to not have produced a positive result?
There was not yet any major standoff with nutjobs and nukes and potential nukes in the hands of fruitcakes didn't exist.
Japans involvement in the far east wasn't impacting much yet and the Chinese faction America supported was still on the ascendancy.
Central America had turned out OK with deployments ending and friendly dictatorships settled in.
I would suggest that you yourself read up before suggesting it to others.

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And, let's not forget that Obama comes into office with his party having had control of both houses of congress for the previous two years (including one that he was a member of).
What was Roosevelts job before he was President and what was the political makeup of the 72nd session?
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My apology to nikimcbee, sorry, didn't mean to derail your thread.


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Make no mistake, blind support for this administration does not help our country.
When did I say I offered blind support? I'm just not so full of blind hatred that I blame him for the original mess.

That's what I was trying to point out. You keep pointing the finger in the wrong direction. You actually think all your ills in the world were caused by Obama. Horsehockey. We wouldn't have to spend money to save our asses, if our asses weren't still bleeding from the people who caused this situation in the first place.

Go read this again, slowly this time. http://subsim.com/radioroom/showpost...9&postcount=40 Read what you wrote. Read my reply. Just pointing out a few facts you won't admit to. Tell me I was wrong on what I said there and stop making assumptions on the way I feel or think. Please do it in a different thread, you/we hijacked this one too far already.


Now back to the original topic. I guess Rio winning has made a few Americans mad about not winning the bid. Maybe we should bomb them, and pay Cheney's company to go in and rebuild it before the games begin.

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Perhaps because Chicago is not a good spot for the Olympics and also because hosting the Olympics is often a very costly operation which ends up costing the taxpayers a lot of money?

Not everything is about Obama.


The Drudge Report's headline was "The Ego Has Landed."

Rational opposition to a Chicago Games based on real concerns doesn't explain the outpouring of joy that America lost its Olympic bid.

This isn't about whether Chicago was a good pick or a bad pick, it's about wanting Obama to fail at anything he does, even the goddamn Olympics.

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