Active sonar, useful for anything other than basic ranging?

suBB · 10-01-09, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NFunky

Hey all, figured I'd start a new topic since this has only a slight bearing on my other thread. This one is a simple question.

Does anyone use active sonar for anything other than obtaining range?

with a few maneuvers against the transmitting source, you can triangulate the sources' location. This is a tactic known as ping stealing.. I've used this a couple of times and works really nice with bracketed subroc salvos.
If you can't tell already, I'm an akula skipper, and will be an Ak2 improved skipper in RA(love the digital sonar gear and WAA),

also, I'd say active sonar is really a trade off of luxury and consequence. Any platform capable of subroc ordinance can literally throw their weight around with active sonar and get weapons on target ASAP. With that kind of firepower, the threat dares not generate a TIW against the transmitting source.. But those that are not capable of such ordinance, use of active sonar is more of a consequence for obvious reasons.

goldorak · 10-01-09, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suBB

If you can't tell already, I'm an akula skipper, and will be an Ak2 improved skipper in RA(love the digital sonar gear and WAA),

I wonder why ?

The Akula II Improved has finally be pushed into the modern era and has become a much more fearsome adversary for blue side. Not that it wasn't a difficult adversary before, but now if you're blue side its going to be like working in hell to sink it.

NFunky · 10-01-09, 07:45 PM

Molon,
Okay, I understand what you meant now, that's a real shame. To put it roughly, either the sensor works too well or not well enough.

Oh well, I did succede in using active in the Kilo today. I'd been searching at 5 kts for some time and when I made a turn an Agosta popped up really loud on my sonars, bearing rate changing fast. I figured he had to have picked me up already seeing as he was so close and I was not traveling at a very stealthy speed, so I pinged him and got a feint blip on his bearing at around 1700m. I fired two USET-80s, one directly on his bearing, one ten degrees left of it (the direction his bearing was changing in), with RTE of 1000. Now that I think about it I probably should have spread the torps even more with him being that close, but I got the kill anyway. Only downside was the damn RA AI never counterfired even though I'm sure he had me on sonar.

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NFunky Machinist's Mate Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 127 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Molon, Okay, I understand what you meant now, that's a real shame. To put it roughly, either the sensor works too well or not well enough. Oh well, I did succede in using active in the Kilo today. I'd been searching at 5 kts for some time and when I made a turn an Agosta popped up really loud on my sonars, bearing rate changing fast. I figured he had to have picked me up already seeing as he was so close and I was not traveling at a very stealthy speed, so I pinged him and got a feint blip on his bearing at around 1700m. I fired two USET-80s, one directly on his bearing, one ten degrees left of it (the direction his bearing was changing in), with RTE of 1000. Now that I think about it I probably should have spread the torps even more with him being that close, but I got the kill anyway. Only downside was the damn RA AI never counterfired even though I'm sure he had me on sonar.