BBW MIA

oscar19681 · 09-24-09, 09:11 AM

This kind of reminds me of a dutch subsim member a while ago. He was also missing and it turned out he was murdered by a famous orginazied crime organisation over here.

JU_88 · 09-24-09, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

This kind of reminds me of a dutch subsim member a while ago. He was also missing and it turned out he was murdered by a famous orginazied crime organisation over here.

What!! Who on earth was that?

Dowly · 09-24-09, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

What!! Who on earth was that?

Abraham.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=123254

oscar19681 · 09-25-09, 08:02 AM

Yep he was a witniss against Willem holleerder. Willem Holleeder was the one who kidnapped Freddy Heiniken head of the heiniken enterprise in november 1981 and after he was conviced for that and did his time he actually climbed in the underworld and eventually became head of the biggest crimi organisation in the netherlands. Abraham being a lawyer got involved after his client Willem endstra got gunned down in the streets of amsterdam and was asked to became witniss in the case against willem holleeder. He eventually got into a witness protection program but stepped out on his own dissision and went back to live in amsterdam where he was found dead a week after testifieing when he was found dead in the shower on an overdose of MDMA(XTC) and alchohol. It is believed that his brazilian girlfriend who had ties with willem holleeder was somehow responsible fore his death and that the drugs where supplies by his own son.
Here is a picture of him when observered by the dutch crimi intellegance service with his client willem endsta who some believed to be a gangser himself

The man who most likely ordere the hit.

Let me finish by saying that Abraham (Bram Zeegers) was one of the good guys not the bad guys and the wrong place and the wrong time.

oscar19681 · 09-26-09, 01:35 PM

what to boring?

Dowly · 09-26-09, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

what to boring?

That was out of line, mate. We already went thru the details concerning his death in the thread I posted link to. Just let it be (and no, I'm not saying he should be forgotten).

Onkel Neal · 09-26-09, 02:05 PM

No, not boring. I think most people don't really have much to say about it. Thanks for the summary, Oscar.

I was told in CPH that the girlfriend died/was killed. Know anything about that?

09-24-09, 09:11 AM	#1
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	This kind of reminds me of a dutch subsim member a while ago. He was also missing and it turned out he was murdered by a famous orginazied crime organisation over here. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

09-25-09, 08:02 AM	#4
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Yep he was a witniss against Willem holleerder. Willem Holleeder was the one who kidnapped Freddy Heiniken head of the heiniken enterprise in november 1981 and after he was conviced for that and did his time he actually climbed in the underworld and eventually became head of the biggest crimi organisation in the netherlands. Abraham being a lawyer got involved after his client Willem endstra got gunned down in the streets of amsterdam and was asked to became witniss in the case against willem holleeder. He eventually got into a witness protection program but stepped out on his own dissision and went back to live in amsterdam where he was found dead a week after testifieing when he was found dead in the shower on an overdose of MDMA(XTC) and alchohol. It is believed that his brazilian girlfriend who had ties with willem holleeder was somehow responsible fore his death and that the drugs where supplies by his own son. Here is a picture of him when observered by the dutch crimi intellegance service with his client willem endsta who some believed to be a gangser himself The man who most likely ordere the hit. Let me finish by saying that Abraham (Bram Zeegers) was one of the good guys not the bad guys and the wrong place and the wrong time. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971 Last edited by oscar19681; 09-25-09 at 08:20 AM.

09-26-09, 01:35 PM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	what to boring? __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

09-26-09, 02:05 PM	#7
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,386 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	No, not boring. I think most people don't really have much to say about it. Thanks for the summary, Oscar. I was told in CPH that the girlfriend died/was killed. Know anything about that? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web