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Old 09-15-09, 03:54 PM   #1
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Holy cow, that's great! Nice to see that now that Macs have become PCs they really can finally be useful. That's really nice!

Now I wonder if either one can be coaxed to run in Virtualbox under Ubuntu Linux. I can't try it now because Microsloth restricts me from using my Windows software, even twice on the same machine but never running concurrently. So I can't install my copy of Windows inside Virtualbox. That steams me good!

If game companies made their games to run under Linux and Mac as well as Windows, lots of us would be forever grateful!
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Old 09-15-09, 04:20 PM   #2
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I don't know the specifics... but I've read that SH3 works fine under Ubuntu in a VM...
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Old 09-15-09, 04:50 PM   #3
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I've read it too but the project leader is long gone and I haven't found any instructions that work. They were running it under WINE, which is not a virtual machine.

I've actually had much better luck running Linux programs under Windows with andLinux than I have running Windows stuff in Linux with WINE. Virtualbox would be the greatest but legally I'd have to buy another copy of Windows. Not going to do that. And I'm not going to cheat either because my dual boot system works just fine. If I need Windows I just boot it.
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Old 09-29-09, 01:48 PM   #4
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Hello,

I have been running SH3 with GWX3 Gold and SH4 with OM,RFB,TMO on separate installs for around 18 months now.

I have run these programs on 2 different Macbook Pro's. My latest Pro is a 2.8 Duo Core, 4G ram. It has a 9600M GT video card with 512 Memory. I can run all graphics settings at max.

With both Mac's I have used Bootcamp that is included in the Mac software to partition the Windows portion of the 500g Seagate installed. I run XP pro on the windows portion.

I would have to say I am more than happy with this setup. I would not go back.
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Old 09-29-09, 02:33 PM   #5
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Too bad Apple is a vendor of overpriced hardware first and a software company second. If I could buy OSX without having to buy their overpriced PC and I could run it on my present machine, I MIGHT be in the market. But their business model being what it is I just hiss in their general direction. Robber barons!

My PC is mine. I'll choose what's in it. I'll choose what software runs on it. I'll choose what software isn't on it. I'll choose whether I want to see web ads if I want, and will even choose which ones. I'm not interested in a non-upgradeable, second quality, black box type computer that assumes I'm a idiot. Of course it does that with a smile. It still irritates the dog squeeze out of me. Their PC/Mac guy commercials say it all. And Apple, in their smug arrogance, doesn't even realize how insulting to the public those are.

I'll never spend a penny on any Apple product. Other than that I wish them well.
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Too bad Apple is a vendor of overpriced hardware first and a software company second. If I could buy OSX without having to buy their overpriced PC and I could run it on my present machine, I MIGHT be in the market. But their business model being what it is I just hiss in their general direction. Robber barons!

My PC is mine. I'll choose what's in it. I'll choose what software runs on it. I'll choose what software isn't on it. I'll choose whether I want to see web ads if I want, and will even choose which ones. I'm not interested in a non-upgradeable, second quality, black box type computer that assumes I'm a idiot. Of course it does that with a smile. It still irritates the dog squeeze out of me. Their PC/Mac guy commercials say it all. And Apple, in their smug arrogance, doesn't even realize how insulting to the public those are.

I'll never spend a penny on any Apple product. Other than that I wish them well.
Everybody is entitled to there opinion. I love my Macbook Pro. I have owned Toshiba, Sony, Dell, Alienware (before they were owned by Dell), and Gateway. I like my Mac the best.

I have upgraded the memory and the hard drive. I don't believe it to be any harder to upgrade than any other laptop. I don't get any web ads either. I would have to say the quality is as good or better than any other laptop that I have owned. My wife has an Imac and she loves that too.
As for the comercial, I think it sucks too.

Ps thanks for all your tutorials and tips on manual targeting. I use your methods all the time.
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Old 09-30-09, 11:10 AM   #7
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No problem Dieselglock! Actually it's kind of nice that Apple has partially yielded to the pressure to build PCs too. That you can run SH4 so well proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Apple has abandoned any claim to uniqueness and just builds PCs with a few proprietary ROMs in them.

Actually you can run OSX on many PCs but, of course, Apple makes it illegal to do so with its insistence that OSX be run only on Apple hardware, which is now no different than PC hardware with a different sticker on it. Sometimes the case is pretty cool looking to make up for the rapacious price. But as you mention, Alienware does the same thing.

Since I bit the bullet and made my own PC, I'm a nuts and bolts guy. I want to be able to swap in a new motherboard, microprocessor and memory to upgrade instead of buying the whole shooting match over again. That keeps me out of the laptop and Apple markets.

If Apple was smart, they'd put the arm on the game companies to produce Apple versions. Then maybe they'd make me happy and produce Linux versions too! Once people found out that they could play the game with twice the speed on a free operating system, they'd check it out. That might put additional pressure on both Microsoft and Apple to put the customer first and quit making lightening wallets their only goal.
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