Enlarge the community ?

Nexus7 · 09-14-09, 09:29 AM

Since the #1 problem for sub simmers is the niche character of the genre, why not put some effort in expanding the community catching other areas ?

For example:

Sonalyst added helo, airplane and a frigate to the playable units as a development of Sub Command to Dangerous Waters (I don't know what the real intention was). Why don't do something similar in the SH series ?

Dangerous Waters is IMO not suitable to route flight-simmers into sub simulators, because of the too raw graphics. I guess that while this doesnt matter for an hardcore sub-simmer, "what you see", 3D, landscape and all, is vital for a flight-simmer. Further, the playable frigate in DW is the most difficult unit to man. Further, DW has been poorly adverzised.

Because of this, SH could be more suitable to drive flight-simmers to our genre, by making the airplanes playable.
Would that happen, this yould yeld the wanted good results:
- more sales for SH
-> more add-ons
-> higher chance of developments
-> faster patches

Task Force · 09-14-09, 09:33 AM

sad fact is... the sh world dosent look too good from the sky...

(look at sh4, in some mods that allow you to free view higher...)

the ocean looks horriable...

I think it would take more time and effort than it should... because they would have to put in flight physics and stuff...

JU_88 · 09-14-09, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

sad fact is... the sh world dosent look too good from the sky...

(look at sh4, in some mods that allow you to free view higher...)

the ocean looks horriable...

I think it would take more time and effort than it should... because they would have to put in flight physics and stuff...

In Sh3, yes - the horizon glitches and the sea textures look 'tiled' especially in rough seas.

There are limits, if we wanted playable destroyers and aircraft, it could have be done - but the trade off would be a n 80% less detailed U-boat Sim.

It would either be:

A Detailed Uboat sim.
Or an Arma II style: battle of Atlantic war game.

We aint getting both in the same title, unless we are each offering to pay Ubi around 50k each for additonal the development costs (of what would still be considered a niche title) .[/

Dowly · 09-14-09, 09:44 AM

It would be great to be able to patrol the seas in an airplane etc.

But like Ju88 said, it's a trade off. Sadly so.

JU_88 · 09-14-09, 09:59 AM

How to make a Uboat sim appeal to the masses?

Maybe Have a 'PIMP my UBOAT' section where you can paint your boat flurescent lime green, add neons and a Turbo charged Diesel engine with Nitrous Oxcide cansters.
You can then Complete with other 'Pimped' vessles in illegal canal races around the waterways of venice

Donitz Could wear lots of 'bling' and get tattoos everywhere. he'd have to work out first athough....

Dowly · 09-14-09, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Donitz Could wear lots of 'bling' and get tattoos everywhere. he'd have to work out first athough....

Maaaaybe not.

JU_88 · 09-14-09, 10:30 AM

Dowly · 09-14-09, 11:19 AM

Ow we definitely need this pimp my boat approach! It would give abit more punch to the boring radio messages and such.

Hitler: England, ya gots nahh choice but ta surrender! Dont be mad stupid!
Churchill: Nuts! We will fight on da beaches, on da hills, everywhere we's need ta! brace yourself foo'!
*Roosevelt joins the discussion*
Roosevelt: Oh wha da dily yo, Churchill? Mind if we's join da fun?
Hitler: And what ya going ta do about dis here? Doenitz's boats iz already sinking yo' ships, foo'!
Roosevelt: Whatever, we's got mo' ships than ya can sink. what the **** sup now?
Hitler: I will smoke myself 'bfoe surrendering ta ya!
Churchill: Dont forget ta take da safety off! Ya' dig?

KeptinCranky · 09-14-09, 11:41 AM

Dowly

Pimp Uncle Doenitz....

oscar19681 · 09-14-09, 03:24 PM

I no !! I can see it all happing when we return from a succesfull patrol and donitz awaits us in lorient saying , WAAAAZZZUUPP biiaaaachhh!!! I got a fine ass knightcross for yo ass!

DarkFish · 09-14-09, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Maybe Have a 'PIMP my UBOAT' section where you can paint your boat flurescent lime green, add neons and a Turbo charged Diesel engine with Nitrous Oxcide cansters.

Why no "Pimp My Captain" section? since it's gonna be 1st person shouldn't we be able to pimp ourselves?

He's got the knights cross alright

martes86 · 09-14-09, 04:41 PM

Destroyer Command 2 is the answer boys and girls.

Dowly · 09-14-09, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

He's got the knights cross alright

ROFL! Lemmy's so old he propably earned that Cross.

gdogghenrikson · 09-15-09, 03:27 PM

I say don't enlarge the community, because I don't want to see SH5 "dumbed down for the masses"
example, I do not want to see 1st person torpedo firing

Takeda Shingen · 09-15-09, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by martes86

Destroyer Command 2 is the answer boys and girls.

Or, it would have been if Destroyer Command 1 had attained any mark of financial success. Personally, there is nothing about the SH2-DC fiasco that I am willing to revisit.

09-14-09, 09:33 AM	#2
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	sad fact is... the sh world dosent look too good from the sky... (look at sh4, in some mods that allow you to free view higher...) the ocean looks horriable... I think it would take more time and effort than it should... because they would have to put in flight physics and stuff... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-14-09, 10:30 AM	#7
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,813 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Last edited by JU_88; 09-14-09 at 10:49 AM.

09-14-09, 03:24 PM	#10
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I no !! I can see it all happing when we return from a succesfull patrol and donitz awaits us in lorient saying , WAAAAZZZUUPP biiaaaachhh!!! I got a fine ass knightcross for yo ass! __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

09-15-09, 03:27 PM	#14
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I say don't enlarge the community, because I don't want to see SH5 "dumbed down for the masses" example, I do not want to see 1st person torpedo firing __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

09-14-09, 09:29 AM	#1
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Enlarge the community ? Since the #1 problem for sub simmers is the niche character of the genre, why not put some effort in expanding the community catching other areas ? For example: Sonalyst added helo, airplane and a frigate to the playable units as a development of Sub Command to Dangerous Waters (I don't know what the real intention was). Why don't do something similar in the SH series ? Dangerous Waters is IMO not suitable to route flight-simmers into sub simulators, because of the too raw graphics. I guess that while this doesnt matter for an hardcore sub-simmer, "what you see", 3D, landscape and all, is vital for a flight-simmer. Further, the playable frigate in DW is the most difficult unit to man. Further, DW has been poorly adverzised. Because of this, SH could be more suitable to drive flight-simmers to our genre, by making the airplanes playable. Would that happen, this yould yeld the wanted good results: - more sales for SH -> more add-ons -> higher chance of developments -> faster patches __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

09-14-09, 09:44 AM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	It would be great to be able to patrol the seas in an airplane etc. But like Ju88 said, it's a trade off. Sadly so.

09-14-09, 09:59 AM	#5
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,813 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	How to make a Uboat sim appeal to the masses? Maybe Have a 'PIMP my UBOAT' section where you can paint your boat flurescent lime green, add neons and a Turbo charged Diesel engine with Nitrous Oxcide cansters. You can then Complete with other 'Pimped' vessles in illegal canal races around the waterways of venice Donitz Could wear lots of 'bling' and get tattoos everywhere. he'd have to work out first athough....

09-14-09, 11:19 AM	#8
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Ow we definitely need this pimp my boat approach! It would give abit more punch to the boring radio messages and such. Hitler: England, ya gots nahh choice but ta surrender! Dont be mad stupid! Churchill: Nuts! We will fight on da beaches, on da hills, everywhere we's need ta! brace yourself foo'! Roosevelt joins the discussion Roosevelt: Oh wha da dily yo, Churchill? Mind if we's join da fun? Hitler: And what ya going ta do about dis here? Doenitz's boats iz already sinking yo' ships, foo'! Roosevelt: Whatever, we's got mo' ships than ya can sink. what the ** sup now? Hitler: I will smoke myself 'bfoe surrendering ta ya! Churchill:** Dont forget ta take da safety off! Ya' dig?

09-14-09, 11:41 AM	#9
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Dowly Pimp Uncle Doenitz....

09-14-09, 04:41 PM	#12
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Destroyer Command 2 is the answer boys and girls.