How many years...?

Raptor1 · 09-01-09, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

On this date in:

1807Former Vice President Aaron Burr was found innocent of treason.

1905Alberta and Saskatchewan became the eighth and ninth provinces of Canada.

1923The Japanese cities of Tokyo and Yokohama were devastated by an earthquake that claimed some 150,000 lives.

1932New York City Mayor James "Gentleman Jimmy" Walker resigned following charges of graft and corruption in his administration.

1942A federal judge in Sacramento, Calif., upheld the wartime detention of Japanese-Americans as well as Japanese nationals.

1951The United States, Australia and New Zealand signed a mutual defense pact, the ANZUS treaty.

1969A coup in Libya brought Moammar Gadhafi to power.

1972American Bobby Fischer won the international chess crown in Reykjavik, Iceland, defeating Boris Spassky of the Soviet Union.

1981Albert Speer, a close associate of Adolf Hitler who ran the Nazi war machine, died at a London hospital at age 76.

1983A Korean Air Lines Boeing 747 was shot down by a Soviet jet fighter after the airliner entered Soviet airspace; 269 people were killed.

1998Mark McGwire of the St. Louis Cardinals hit his 56th and 57th home runs of the season, breaking the National League record set by Hack Wilson in 1930.

2004More than 1,100 people were taken hostage by heavily armed Chechen militants at a school in Beslan in southern Russia; more than 330 people, most of them children, were killed during the three-day ordeal.

2007Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, announced that he would resign in the wake of fallout over his guilty plea in a Minnesota airport gay sex sting. (Craig later reversed his decision, saying he would serve out the rest of his term.)

2008Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's choice to be his running mate on the Republican ticket, revealed that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant.

Omitting the most important event, I see...

Oh, that 7TP is ugly

Biggles · 09-01-09, 11:36 AM

And tomorrow it's....well alot of years since the war ended (September 2nd, 1945). 60 000 000 lives later...

Raptor1 · 09-01-09, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggles

And tomorrow it's....well alot of years since the war ended (September 2nd, 1945). 60 000 000 lives later...

Actually, the very last action of WWII, the Soviet occupation of the Kurils, ended today on September 1st. The Japanese surrender was announced on August 15th but Soviet troops in Manchuria continued to advance for quite some time after that.

Oberon · 09-01-09, 12:13 PM

Lets not forget that the Poles put up one hell of a fight, despite being outnumbered, outgunned, nowhere to retreat and thousands of miles from help. Those who went on to serve in the Battle of Britain were known for their courage, ferocity and determination, amply demonstrated in about seven days time at the Battle of Wizna.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna

(Song by Swedish power-metal group Sabaton about Wizna)

Task Force · 09-01-09, 12:15 PM

yep, Today WW1s big brother started up...

Sailor Steve · 09-01-09, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

yep, Today WW1s big brother started up...

Hmm...

I would be more inclined to call it WW1's son, myself.

Jimbuna · 09-01-09, 01:36 PM

Approximate numbers of civilian and military deaths:

WWI 37 million
WWII 56 million

I still couldn't imagine WWI being any less horrific though

Thomen · 09-01-09, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Lets not forget that the Poles put up one hell of a fight, despite being outnumbered, outgunned, nowhere to retreat and thousands of miles from help. Those who went on to serve in the Battle of Britain were known for their courage, ferocity and determination, amply demonstrated in about seven days time at the Battle of Wizna.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna

(Song by Swedish power-metal group Sabaton about Wizna)

One of my grandfathers (the other served on uboats) took part in the Poland Campaign in an Engineers Regiment. He was quite impressed with the fight the Poles put up and spoke with the highest respect of the Polish soldiers and their bravery.

Raptor1 · 09-01-09, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Lets not forget that the Poles put up one hell of a fight, despite being outnumbered, outgunned, nowhere to retreat and thousands of miles from help. Those who went on to serve in the Battle of Britain were known for their courage, ferocity and determination, amply demonstrated in about seven days time at the Battle of Wizna.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna

(Song by Swedish power-metal group Sabaton about Wizna)

It wasn't just Wizna, the Poles demonstrated their fighting ability throughout the invasion. For example, at Westerplatte (At the very beginning of the invasion), the Poles held on for 7 days and inflicted many casualties on the Germans who outnumbered and outgunned them by far.

The general belief that Poland surrendered quickly and without a fight is a myth, the invasion of Poland lasted only slightly less than the Battle of France despite the fact that the western Allies were much better off in numbers, position and equipment (Which in many cases outclassed the Germans').

BTW, I think somebody vandalized the Battle of Wizna wiki article, the German tank losses are way overstated.

Knipper · 09-01-09, 03:17 PM

'S right Raptor. What those folk did was legendary. They flew with the RAF in the Battle of Britain, fought at Arnhem (when the Brits could be bothered to supply planes to drop them in) as well as Monte Casino and of course, let's not forget the Warsaw uprising. Even now, the Poles and the Brits have a very 'special' relationship, at least all the ones I know think we have. Which is kind of surprising really when you think of all the times we Brits let them down.

Platapus · 09-01-09, 04:17 PM

I wonder how many Americans knew this? For many Americans, WWII started 7 Dec 41.

Never could forgive those Germans from bombing Pearl Harbour.

Oberon · 09-01-09, 04:23 PM

Aye, I didn't mean just Wizna, but the campaign as a whole, I mean, the tenecity of the Poles and their spirit. Well, I'm glad they were on our side

TLAM Strike · 09-04-09, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Actually, the very last action of WWII, the Soviet occupation of the Kurils, ended today on September 1st. The Japanese surrender was announced on August 15th but Soviet troops in Manchuria continued to advance for quite some time after that.

Some consider Operation Vistula (April 1947) and the subsiquent guerrilla fighting the last action of WWII.

http://www.polandinexile.com/vistula.html

Also September 18, 1931 could be considered the real start of WWII when a couple of renigade Japanese Colonels invaded China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_Incident

09-01-09, 11:36 AM	#2
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	And tomorrow it's....well alot of years since the war ended (September 2nd, 1945). 60 000 000 lives later... __________________

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yep, Today WW1s big brother started up... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Approximate numbers of civilian and military deaths: WWI 37 million WWII 56 million I still couldn't imagine WWI being any less horrific though __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Knipper Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bath, SW England Posts: 123 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	'S right Raptor. What those folk did was legendary. They flew with the RAF in the Battle of Britain, fought at Arnhem (when the Brits could be bothered to supply planes to drop them in) as well as Monte Casino and of course, let's not forget the Warsaw uprising. Even now, the Poles and the Brits have a very 'special' relationship, at least all the ones I know think we have. Which is kind of surprising really when you think of all the times we Brits let them down. __________________ Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,377 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I wonder how many Americans knew this? For many Americans, WWII started 7 Dec 41. Never could forgive those Germans from bombing Pearl Harbour. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right. Last edited by Platapus; 09-01-09 at 04:43 PM.

09-01-09, 12:13 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Lets not forget that the Poles put up one hell of a fight, despite being outnumbered, outgunned, nowhere to retreat and thousands of miles from help. Those who went on to serve in the Battle of Britain were known for their courage, ferocity and determination, amply demonstrated in about seven days time at the Battle of Wizna. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna (Song by Swedish power-metal group Sabaton about Wizna)

09-01-09, 04:23 PM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Aye, I didn't mean just Wizna, but the campaign as a whole, I mean, the tenecity of the Poles and their spirit. Well, I'm glad they were on our side