Senator Ted Kennedy Dead at 77 - Page 5

Max2147 · 08-27-09, 10:23 AM

I come from a family of doctors, so I know quite a few of them. I've never heard any of them say a bad word about Ted Kennedy, even though a lot of them are from the conservative side of the spectrum. When his obituaries talk about his support for health care, they're not making it up.

I've personally benefited from his strong support of teaching hospitals. Without teaching hospitals you don't have the next generation of doctors, but they've been a dying breed as of late because they're not as profitable as other things hospitals can do. Ted Kennedy was easily the strongest supporter of teaching hospitals in national office, and our nation's academic physicians will miss his tireless support of their profession.

SteamWake · 08-27-09, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

The Kennedy's and the fairytale Court of Camelot, even included a version of the Lady in the Lake for constistancy.

Oh thats just so wrong

08-27-09, 10:48 AM

Named after his father’s chauffer and, as one biographer uncharitably called him, “whoremaster,” Edward Moore Kennedy never had a chance to be anyone but Edward Moore Kennedy. Joe Kennedy’s ambition to be president, jeopardized by his burning affair with starlet Gloria Swanson, moved the family patriarch to offer more money, trips, and servants to his alienated wife in return for a ninth child that would keep the scandal sheets off his back. As biographer Joe McGinniss explained, Ted Kennedy’s “very existence was the result of an act of political calculation on his father’s part.”

“He was my baby,” mother Rose remembered, “and I tried to keep him my baby.” When he was a man, this showed. He cheated his way out of Harvard. He led police on drunken high-speed chases while at law school in Charlottesville, Va. He bedded the most available women. When he finally settled down with Joan Bennett, his virgin bride surmised that he did so mainly because she refused to give him what so many of his girlfriends had “The only reason he wanted to marry me,” Joan reflected, “was because he couldn’t get me any other way.”

Washington Post columnist Mary McGrory said the trick in discussing the neophyte’s senate run was “to keep an absolutely straight face.” Prof. Mark De Wolfe Howe of Harvard Law School, a sometime advisor to John F. Kennedy, found the youngest Kennedy’s candidacy “preposterous and insulting.” But the pedigree of the 30-year-old kid brother of the President bested that of Edward McCormack, the nephew of the Speaker of the House, in the Democratic primary.

Despite his intellectual and character deficiencies, Ted was the family’s natural politician. His glad-handing and gregarious nature showed him as a Fitzgerald and not a Kennedy.

In the wee hours of July 18, 1969, Ted Kennedy drove Mary Jo Kopechne to her death and, rather than report the accident to the police, spent the next ten hours or so sobering up, attempting to cajole his drinking buddies to vouch for his innocence in the matter, and calling his lawyer, a German girlfriend, and political cronies. The indifference was particularly galling to many involved in the case. “She didn’t drown,” the diver who retrieved Kophechne’s body from Kennedy’s Oldsmobile Delmont 88, steadfastly held. “She died of suffocation in her own air void. It took her at least three or four hours to die. I could have had her out of that car in 25 minutes after I got the call. But he didn’t call.”

Happy?

Tchocky · 08-27-09, 10:51 AM

You should get onto this guy, CastleBravo. He's stolen your post.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33298

August · 08-27-09, 10:56 AM

Hey CastleBravo. It's not very ethical to post someone elses writing like it was your own. There's a quote feature, use it.

AVGWarhawk · 08-27-09, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Hey CastleBravo. It's not very ethical to post someone elses writing like it was your own. There's a quote feature, use it.

Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet.

Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates.

Were is the change?

Tchocky · 08-27-09, 11:15 AM

Well, yeah. I mean, Ted Kennedy was always adamantly against healthcare reform.

August · 08-27-09, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet.

Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates.

Were is the change?

And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support.

August · 08-27-09, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet.

Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates.

Were is the change?

And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support. When it fails it can join Hillerycare and Obama care in the dustbin of history.

08-27-09, 11:29 AM

Many apologies for not posting correctly in my earlier passages. I have fixed it.

Does anyone think that saying it was Teddy's effort to reform healthcare really make obamacare sound less onerous or unaffordable?

SteamWake · 08-27-09, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Well, yeah. I mean, Ted Kennedy was always adamantly against healthcare reform.

Untill recently.

Ted was actually against a number of tax and spend programs I'll have to give him that.

But he was adamantly for the Barrack take over .... er... health plan.

FIREWALL · 08-27-09, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I imagine most people feel ... J.F.K. & R.F.K > R.I.P.

T.M.K. > R.I.H.

fixed

AVGWarhawk · 08-27-09, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support. When it fails it can join Hillerycare and Obama care in the dustbin of history.

True-dat

Tchocky · 08-27-09, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Untill recently.

I was joking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezra Klein

"This is the cause of my life," Ted Kennedy wrote. "For four decades I have carried this cause — from the floor of the United States Senate to every part of this country. It has never been merely a question of policy; it goes to the heart of my belief in a just society."
Kennedy was talking about health care. But then, Kennedy was always talking about health care. He was talking about it when he helped pass Medicare and Medicaid in the '60s. When he tried to reach a deal with Richard Nixon in the '70s. When he made it the center of his challenge to Jimmy Carter in the '80s. When he created the Children's Health Insurance Program in the '90s. When he directed his staff to begin educating senators and stakeholders for President Obama's effort late last year.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...edys_life.html

Aramike · 08-27-09, 03:12 PM

So, those of you from the area (August?): who's going to be his replacement?

08-27-09, 10:48 AM	#63
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Named after his father’s chauffer and, as one biographer uncharitably called him, “whoremaster,” Edward Moore Kennedy never had a chance to be anyone but Edward Moore Kennedy. Joe Kennedy’s ambition to be president, jeopardized by his burning affair with starlet Gloria Swanson, moved the family patriarch to offer more money, trips, and servants to his alienated wife in return for a ninth child that would keep the scandal sheets off his back. As biographer Joe McGinniss explained, Ted Kennedy’s “very existence was the result of an act of political calculation on his father’s part.” “He was my baby,” mother Rose remembered, “and I tried to keep him my baby.” When he was a man, this showed. He cheated his way out of Harvard. He led police on drunken high-speed chases while at law school in Charlottesville, Va. He bedded the most available women. When he finally settled down with Joan Bennett, his virgin bride surmised that he did so mainly because she refused to give him what so many of his girlfriends had “The only reason he wanted to marry me,” Joan reflected, “was because he couldn’t get me any other way.” Washington Post columnist Mary McGrory said the trick in discussing the neophyte’s senate run was “to keep an absolutely straight face.” Prof. Mark De Wolfe Howe of Harvard Law School, a sometime advisor to John F. Kennedy, found the youngest Kennedy’s candidacy “preposterous and insulting.” But the pedigree of the 30-year-old kid brother of the President bested that of Edward McCormack, the nephew of the Speaker of the House, in the Democratic primary. Despite his intellectual and character deficiencies, Ted was the family’s natural politician. His glad-handing and gregarious nature showed him as a Fitzgerald and not a Kennedy. In the wee hours of July 18, 1969, Ted Kennedy drove Mary Jo Kopechne to her death and, rather than report the accident to the police, spent the next ten hours or so sobering up, attempting to cajole his drinking buddies to vouch for his innocence in the matter, and calling his lawyer, a German girlfriend, and political cronies. The indifference was particularly galling to many involved in the case. “She didn’t drown,” the diver who retrieved Kophechne’s body from Kennedy’s Oldsmobile Delmont 88, steadfastly held. “She died of suffocation in her own air void. It took her at least three or four hours to die. I could have had her out of that car in 25 minutes after I got the call. But he didn’t call.” Happy? Last edited by CastleBravo; 08-27-09 at 11:01 AM.

08-27-09, 10:51 AM	#64
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	You should get onto this guy, CastleBravo. He's stolen your post. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33298 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

08-27-09, 10:56 AM	#65
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,244 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hey CastleBravo. It's not very ethical to post someone elses writing like it was your own. There's a quote feature, use it. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

08-27-09, 11:15 AM	#67
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Well, yeah. I mean, Ted Kennedy was always adamantly against healthcare reform. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

08-27-09, 10:23 AM	#61
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I come from a family of doctors, so I know quite a few of them. I've never heard any of them say a bad word about Ted Kennedy, even though a lot of them are from the conservative side of the spectrum. When his obituaries talk about his support for health care, they're not making it up. I've personally benefited from his strong support of teaching hospitals. Without teaching hospitals you don't have the next generation of doctors, but they've been a dying breed as of late because they're not as profitable as other things hospitals can do. Ted Kennedy was easily the strongest supporter of teaching hospitals in national office, and our nation's academic physicians will miss his tireless support of their profession.

08-27-09, 11:29 AM	#70
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Many apologies for not posting correctly in my earlier passages. I have fixed it. Does anyone think that saying it was Teddy's effort to reform healthcare really make obamacare sound less onerous or unaffordable?

08-27-09, 03:12 PM	#75
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	So, those of you from the area (August?): who's going to be his replacement?