Senator Ted Kennedy Dead at 77

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Kind of like the exploitation of the deaths of 3000 on 9/11/01 by the Republicans, eh?

When I think you can sink no lower...

You always prove me wrong.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Yeah, right ... this time you've gone to Loonville...

I guess you missed the intro video to John McCain's acceptance speech at the RNC last year. Or every mention of "In the post 9/11 world..." by any Repub, or using 9/11 to push through the Patriot Act, or the fundraiser titled "$9.11 For Rudy" for Guiliani's presidential bid where the admission fee was $9.11...I could keep going. There's plenty of evidence.

If I'm in Loonville, you're the governor of the state of Loonachusetts

Face it - politicians of every stripe use fear, emotion and death as a tool. Not limited to one side or the other.

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

When I think you can sink no lower...

You always prove me wrong.

Nice rebuttal.

[FIREWALL]

Thank You I thought so too.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I guess you missed the intro video to John McCain's acceptance speech at the RNC last year. Or every mention of "In the post 9/11 world..." by any Repub, or using 9/11 to push through the Patriot Act, or the fundraiser titled "$9.11 For Rudy" for Guiliani's presidential bid where the admission fee was $9.11...I could keep going. There's plenty of evidence.

If I'm in Loonville, you're the governor of the state of Loonachusetts

Face it - politicians of every stripe use fear, emotion and death as a tool. Not limited to one side or the other.



Nice rebuttal.

Uhh. No. There is simply no comparison of bringing up the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01 in keeping the nation focused on the war (which of course national security should be non-partisan ), and the Democrat moonbats at the Paul Wellstone memorial. Also, compare Republican behavior at Reagan's funeral. The Republicans did it right. You have an empty bag mookie. 9/11 is an issue that both parties should be onboard with. You have gone off the deep end with this one........ totally. I wish Democrats would put some actual real focus and emphasis on the 9/11 attacks. I wish Democrats would take 9/11 and National Security seriously.

And I also wish Democrats wouldn't view their dead colleagues as political opportunities to exploit. It's low class and plain sickening.

Anyway, watch and listen to the looney Al Franken here and contrast the images of the service at the end of the video.

[mookiemookie]

Oh good lord. If you all refuse to see the plain truth in front of your eyes how 9/11 has been used as a political tool to advance an agenda, you're willfully blind.



Absolutely stunning how this is even debatable.

[Aramike]

I guess you missed the intro video to John McCain's acceptance speech at the RNC last year. Or every mention of "In the post 9/11 world..." by any Repub, or using 9/11 to push through the Patriot Act, or the fundraiser titled "$9.11 For Rudy" for Guiliani's presidential bid where the admission fee was $9.11...I could keep going. There's plenty of evidence.

If I'm in Loonville, you're the governor of the state of Loonachusetts

Face it - politicians of every stripe use fear, emotion and death as a tool. Not limited to one side or the other.

There's a difference between responding to a major event with specific steps related to that event, and the exploitation of an event.

I don't disagree that politicians of all ideologies exploit events for their own gain ... however, I don't see 9/11 as anything close to that.

[SteamWake]

Its a real shame a memorial thread gets instantly derailed into a political mud fight.

But then again I realize it was Ted Kennedy the liberals poster boy.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Its a real shame a memorial thread gets instantly derailed into a political mud fight.

But then again I realize it was Ted Kennedy the liberals poster boy.

I never really cared for him one way or another, but I couldn't miss a chance to wind y'all up by throwing in my two cents.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Oh good lord. If you all refuse to see the plain truth in front of your eyes how 9/11 has been used as a political tool to advance an agenda, you're willfully blind.

Mookie, there is simply no equivalence to the national security aspect. Although, I see the sign you post as harshly worded, and perhaps not particularly effective in message, it simply doesn't compare to the loud booing of members of the opposing party at a dead colleague's memorial service, or pushing partisan legislation by exploiting the dead body of a fallen colleague. Did you see Republicans do this type of sick action during Reagan's or Nixon's service? No you didn't. Did you see any Republican Senator get up there and say anything like...."lets win the next election for the Gipper!!!"??? No you didn't. The fact that you don't understand the difference, confirms to me completely what I know to be true about Democrats vis a vis National Security and ethics in general.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Its a real shame a memorial thread gets instantly derailed into a political mud fight.

But then again I realize it was Ted Kennedy the liberals poster boy.

Its kind of what I expected. Ted Kennedy was one of the most polarizing figures in the country on both politics and personal morality.

[FIREWALL]

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Hey, its the official mascot of GT!

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Mookie, there is simply no equivalence to the national security aspect. Although, I see the sign you post as harshly worded, and perhaps not particularly effective in message, it simply doesn't compare to the loud booing of members of the opposing party at a dead colleague's memorial service, or pushing partisan legislation by exploiting the dead body of a fallen colleague. Did you see Republicans do this type of sick action during Reagan's or Nixon's service? No you didn't. Did you see any Republican Senator get up there and say anything like...."lets win the next election for the Gipper!!!"??? No you didn't. The fact that you don't understand the difference, confirms to me completely what I know to be true about Democrats vis a vis National Security and ethics in general.

Agreed on the Wellstone funeral. Bad taste. But to be fair, Nixon and Reagan weren't sitting senators at the time of their death.

But there's a difference in pushing legislation is that it was their life's work. Kennedy came out back in (March I believe?) and basically said it was his dying wish to get the health care issue done.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

But there's a difference in pushing legislation is that it was their life's work. Kennedy came out back in (March I believe?) and basically said it was his dying wish to get the health care issue done.

I just simply disagree. While I have hope that this won't turn into another Wellstone thing, as nobody deserves that upon their death, Pelosi has come out and apparently has seen it as a means to get some kind of sentiment on the issue to get it passed. Perhaps Kennedy wanted to be exploited on his death. Who knows? But regardless, politics shouldn't be a part of their passing from this world, and used as means to push political agendas. It's poor form.

The reason why it's wrong is because it forces the agenda with the choice of if "you oppose the bill, you oppose Ted Kennedy". It would have been wrong if Republicans invoked Reagan to pass their agenda upon his death for the same reason.

I'll never agree to this regardless if we're talking about Democrat or Republican people dying. Politics don't matter when you leave this world.

[AVGWarhawk]

Next it will be called the Ted Kennedy Healthcare Bill This family has been mixed up in things like women drowning in the back seat of cars and rape on the family compound. But, we will remember the man as 'The Lion'. Yea, ok.