The reality sea is the most important in submarine game [Merged]

W_clear · 08-22-09, 10:32 AM

From the figure reflected in the seawater, I think it is the failure of the seawater.

But the splash to be successful .Not enough water reflection

Captain von Keldunk · 08-22-09, 10:53 AM

Too early to tell really, in those pics not much wind.
Environment is supposed to be better in SH5.

AVGWarhawk · 08-22-09, 11:52 AM

It certainly is not wet enough

Kromus · 08-22-09, 12:05 PM

It seems to be same as in SH4

I want to see real water finally that wakes crashes when sub/ship hits them...
Not just a textured sealevel that changes itself and run through the boat upwards/downwards without any collision (no more flying submarines in 15m per sec weather).
I hope they change this, but since engine seems to be pretty much ready by now, I really dont know.

Jimbuna · 08-22-09, 01:35 PM

I'd like to see a few more movie clips before making any judgement.

Hartmann · 08-22-09, 03:16 PM

I think that is too early to judge the game,perhaps they will use a improved Sh4 engine with more effects and DX10 graphics, but with the enviroment mods could be really amazing

mookiemookie · 08-22-09, 03:18 PM

Game companies are notorious for touching up their screenshots, so I think making a judgment based on the two or three we have is very premature.

Gezoes · 08-23-09, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'd like to see a few more movie clips before making any judgement.

PL_Andrev · 08-23-09, 12:07 PM

And graphic is not important.
Nobody will play perfectly graphical SH5 if this game is one big bug.

donut · 08-22-09, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It certainly is not wet enough

Subs are much to dry, see Das Boot Bridge, like Niagra Falls.

Task Force · 08-22-09, 11:28 PM

Well... I can almost garente that you will see better water effects.. but nothing like say... crysis or something...

TarJak · 08-23-09, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It certainly is not wet enough

I found that looking at these screenies after sticking your head in an ice cold bucket of seawater makes them wet enough.

Rockin Robbins · 08-23-09, 08:32 AM

Das Boot bridge is a movie set on a stage with buckets of water being tossed on it and a big fan. I saw one just like it at Disney World. I don't want a movie set like Das Boot. I want a real submarine, or failing that, a good simulation of one.

kv29 · 08-23-09, 09:11 AM

No, I dont like the water (at this stage at least). The sub seems to be riding over a dull plastic bag full of water, no good reflections.

Yes, is too early to know how it will look like (not like THIS I hope!)

EDIT: my god, I can see dynamic shadow is NOT implemented at all (at least on exterior shots)..... how could this be? looks awfully a lot like SHIV engine....

SteamWake · 08-23-09, 09:54 AM

No matter what they do in the end its a simulation and cannot reflect reality espically something as dynamic as water.

All they can do is some graphic representation of water. Furthermore keeping in mind that there is a limit to computing power and to put vast amounts of overhead in the game for 'perfect' water would bring alot of systemes to their knees. Some comprimise must be met.

In the end you cannot satisfy everyone, just do the best job you can and move on.

08-22-09, 10:32 AM	#1
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	I don't agree the seawater of SH5 From the figure reflected in the seawater, I think it is the failure of the seawater. But the splash to be successful .Not enough water reflection

08-22-09, 10:53 AM	#2
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	no wind no waves no foam Too early to tell really, in those pics not much wind. Environment is supposed to be better in SH5. __________________ SH

08-22-09, 11:52 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,276 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It certainly is not wet enough __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-22-09, 01:35 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,645 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'd like to see a few more movie clips before making any judgement. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-22-09, 03:16 PM	#6
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I think that is too early to judge the game,perhaps they will use a improved Sh4 engine with more effects and DX10 graphics, but with the enviroment mods could be really amazing __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

08-22-09, 12:05 PM	#4
Kromus Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 250 Downloads: 140 Uploads: 0	It seems to be same as in SH4 I want to see real water finally that wakes crashes when sub/ship hits them... Not just a textured sealevel that changes itself and run through the boat upwards/downwards without any collision (no more flying submarines in 15m per sec weather). I hope they change this, but since engine seems to be pretty much ready by now, I really dont know.

08-22-09, 03:18 PM	#7
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08-23-09, 12:07 PM	#9
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	And graphic is not important. Nobody will play perfectly graphical SH5 if this game is one big bug. __________________

08-22-09, 11:28 PM	#11
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well... I can almost garente that you will see better water effects.. but nothing like say... crysis or something... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-23-09, 08:32 AM	#13
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Das Boot bridge is a movie set on a stage with buckets of water being tossed on it and a big fan. I saw one just like it at Disney World. I don't want a movie set like Das Boot. I want a real submarine, or failing that, a good simulation of one. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-23-09, 09:11 AM	#14
kv29 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 342 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	No, I dont like the water (at this stage at least). The sub seems to be riding over a dull plastic bag full of water, no good reflections. Yes, is too early to know how it will look like (not like THIS I hope!) EDIT: my god, I can see dynamic shadow is NOT implemented at all (at least on exterior shots)..... how could this be? looks awfully a lot like SHIV engine.... Last edited by kv29; 08-23-09 at 09:22 AM.

08-23-09, 09:54 AM	#15
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No matter what they do in the end its a simulation and cannot reflect reality espically something as dynamic as water. All they can do is some graphic representation of water. Furthermore keeping in mind that there is a limit to computing power and to put vast amounts of overhead in the game for 'perfect' water would bring alot of systemes to their knees. Some comprimise must be met. In the end you cannot satisfy everyone, just do the best job you can and move on. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648