This time I'll wait......

[tater]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

@RockinRobbins
Yes, I like your idea, alternatively make games so cheap no one would bother to pirate them. They diid this in Russia and piracy rates dropped by 78%.

Lower price, then have add-ons (already in the can, or nearly so, ideally) that similarly cost a little.

I'll likely wait, too, as I have no use for u-boats. I'd be interested in escort duty, though... or maybe RN subs.

[Rockin Robbins]

Regardless of what we get, this is going to be very interesting and entertaining. Hope they blow my socks off and kill all my doubts.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

plus the absurd artwork depicting the sub surfaced within a hundred meters of exploding merchies and attacking escorts make me wonder about the overall design philosophy of the game.

[Nexus7]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

@RockinRobbins
Yes, I like your idea, alternatively make games so cheap no one would bother to pirate them. They diid this in Russia and piracy rates dropped by 78%.

My personal attitude is to:

- download the game from some torrents
- install & play it hopeing it works

if it works:
1. if i consider the product worthy:
- the producer gains my respect
- i buy the game no matter the price (below 200$ is ok)

2. if i consider the pruduct BS:
- i uninstall the pirated game.
- no buy.

Even at work I see to much squanded money on crappy software. That's fraud to me.

Best protection to make me buy the game:
- the protection that allows you to go multiplayer over some server (applyed for BF1942, Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and others)

I am no longer going to spend (a lot) of money when with the same money i can buy four books witch will enrichen me and maybe my children.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I'm happy to see that SH5 has finally been officially announced. Now the game begins once again. Demands, frustration, anger, joy etc.

For me, having gone through the fiasco of SH3 and SH4 being released as unfinished games and then having to be heavily patched during the first year after release, has changed my mind about purchasing the game.

This time I've decided to wait at least 9 months, probably a year after release, before purchasing SH5.

Buying a game and immediately patching it...then waiting for and adding mods....then uninstalling those mods and adding patch 2....then waiting for and adding the newly compatible mods....then uninstalling those mods and installing patch 3...then adding newly compatible mods.....it all gets so old.

So I'll follow the journey of SH5 as an interested onlooker. Once patch 1.4 is released, I'll buy the game at some bargain basement bin and patch and mod it.

I'm too old now for Ubisoft's nonsense.

That's what they all say.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Nexus7

My personal attitude is to:

- download the game from some torrents
- install & play it hopeing it works

BRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Warning buzzer goes off. I don't think it's proper to suggest that here. Either pay and play or don't pay and don't play. Those are your only two choices unless there's a demo coming out.

Not sure if this warrants ringing up the mods or not. They'll see it I'm sure. I feel merciful tonight.

@mookie That IS pretty disgusting isn't it? At least they got it better for the UBM badge. SH3 box was pretty ok too.

[longam]

MSRP $49.99 USD - why not....

http://pc.ign.com/objects/026/026623.html

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by Nexus7

My personal attitude is to:

- download the game from some torrents
- install & play it hopeing it works

if it works:
1. if i consider the product worthy:
- the producer gains my respect
- i buy the game no matter the price (below 200$ is ok)

2. if i consider the pruduct BS:
- i uninstall the pirated game.
- no buy.

Even at work I see to much squanded money on crappy software. That's fraud to me.

Best protection to make me buy the game:
- the protection that allows you to go multiplayer over some server (applyed for BF1942, Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and others)

I am no longer going to spend (a lot) of money when with the same money i can buy four books witch will enrichen me and maybe my children.

If you read anything. I would recomend the SubSim rules about this subject. Big No No

[Rockin Robbins]

Changed my mind. Unfortunately, that's too reportable to ignore. I hate to report somebody with 481 posts.

[ETR3(SS)]

If ye be a pirate, this not be the site fer yer kind to flaunt it arrrghh!

[FIREWALL]

If he deletes his post, I'll delete mine.

Only because he fairly new. And I'm not a Moderator.

[Nexus7]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

BRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Warning buzzer goes off. I don't think it's proper to suggest that here. Either pay and play or don't pay and don't play.
Those are your only two choices unless there's a demo coming out.

What is wrong in testing a product before you buy it ?
At work, I just bought a 50$ software (the company pays), it promises to allow you to split and merge multipage TIFF images.
Problem: The demo allows you to work with multitiff images up to 5 pages, while i work with multitiff images up to 50 pages.

I bought the software (my company paid).
Result: with more than 10 pages, the conversion becomes
1. slow
2. crappy (images get distorted and unusable)

Should I trust the demo again ?? I donnnnnnnnnnn't like to get robbed

Second example -> Dangerous Waters:
The general expectations and excitement got me totally about the improvement of Sub Command into a new level.
At game release i spent my 75$ (current exchange) and bought the sim right away. It's not really about the money you know...

The sim (and this will ring up the DW MOD community for the 100'th time) was very playable with official patch 1.00 witch then evolved to patch 1.04.

Problem: the community was not happy and wanted faster corrections (while the same community was pushing to release the sim as soon as possible). MODders activity started. In a complex simulator like Dangerous Waters, to touch little parameters results in a totally new gaming experience. To keep in touch, I would have had to keep in touch to the fast releasing MOD's updates (lots of changements), maybe 10 changes in onme week.

While I was relatively good with Sub Command and Dangerous Waters patched Officially, I totally lost the feeling to the simulator after it started getting Modified (the majority played with the MOD installed).

Result: I pushed to stay with the official patches -> the developer shut the doors and the sim went dead, YES DEAD.

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Not sure if this warrants ringing up the mods or not. They'll see it I'm sure. I feel merciful tonight.

That one about DW is a little an extreme situation i recognize it, as Sonalyst's primary concern is not the gaming industry.
On the other hand, before I buy something, I want to be sure it is not just worth the trashcan.

[Onkel Neal]

Let's all hold off on buying SH5, at least for a year, when it is in the bargain bins. That way we can end the Silent Hunter series for once and all. That'll teach 'em. It sure worked for Sonalysts games.

[Sonarman]

Some very brave companies throw their brand new game straight into the bargain bin in an effort to combat piracy/ revitalise the market maybe Ubi should try that?

[Biggs[CV]]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Some very brave companies throw their brand new game straight into the bargain bin in an effort to combat piracy maybe Ubi should try that?

Yea and there are some very crappy games in the bargain bin too. You want this series of games to continue, you pay full price. Ubisoft has done a pretty damn good job with the SH franchise. If you don't think so just look at what happened to Rainbow 6.