HMAS Sydney Inquiry Completed

Sledgehammer427 · 08-14-09, 03:58 PM

iambecomelife · 08-15-09, 11:28 PM

I read somewhere that the men in the aft turrets behaved heroically during the battle. The entire ship was being destroyed around them, and at the last minute they managed to do just enough damage to make sure Kormoran sank. Tragically, they were of course never rewarded for their bravery. RIP.

bookworm_020 · 08-16-09, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

I read somewhere that the men in the aft turrets behaved heroically during the battle. The entire ship was being destroyed around them, and at the last minute they managed to do just enough damage to make sure Kormoran sank. Tragically, they were of course never rewarded for their bravery. RIP.

Correct, even the Germans acknowledged there bravery.

Thomen · 08-17-09, 01:28 PM

If someone is interested:
http://www.defence.gov.au/sydneyii/exhibits.htm

Those are links to, what seems to be, the raw data that was used in the report. Some interesting stuff and many historical documents are accesible.

Jimbuna · 08-17-09, 04:30 PM

A veritable treasure trove

Dan D · 08-17-09, 05:18 PM

I very much enjoyed the "Letter from the German Military Archives of 2/3/2009" (Exhibit number 249) to the Commission of Inquiry where a Dr. Menzel, Director of the Archives, gives his "assessment of a [certain] allegedly official document by the German Navy" cited in the book "The lost souls and ghosts of HMAS Sydney II 1941, dated 21 November 1941.
http://www.defence.gov.au/sydneyii/E...005.0347_E.pdf

Quote: "In average every second word of the thirteen lines of text -on top of everything written with a type writer font not used at that time- is misspelled. In part, English words are used. Clerks and official writers no matter of whichever administration [and] in whatever country, however, normally are proficient in the official language. There can be not mention of a command of the German language here though. The grammar is downright ludicrous!"

"--an absolutely amateurish and altogether very clumsy forgery!--"

LOL!
To have command of the German language and grammar can be useful at times, at least, if you want to fake offical Navy documents.
Go back to school!

Thomen · 08-17-09, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

I very much enjoyed the "Letter from the German Military Archives of 2/3/2009" (Exhibit number 249) to the Commission of Inquiry where a Dr. Menzel, Director of the Archives, gives his "assessment of a [certain] allegedly official document by the German Navy" cited in the book "The lost souls and ghosts of HMAS Sydney II 1941, dated 21 November 1941.
http://www.defence.gov.au/sydneyii/E...005.0347_E.pdf

Quote: "In average every second word of the thirteen lines of text -on top of everything written with a type writer font not used at that time- is misspelled. In part, English words are used. Clerks and official writers no matter of whichever administration [and] in whatever country, however, normally are proficient in the official language. There can be not mention of a command of the German language here though. The grammar is downright ludicrous!"

"--an absolutely amateurish and altogether very clumsy forgery!--"

LOL!
To have command of the German language and grammar can be useful at times, at least, if you want to fake offical Navy documents.
Go back to school!

Did you read Montagu's responses to the letter that the commision send him to inform him that the document in question is a forgery?

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iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,709 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	I read somewhere that the men in the aft turrets behaved heroically during the battle. The entire ship was being destroyed around them, and at the last minute they managed to do just enough damage to make sure Kormoran sank. Tragically, they were of course never rewarded for their bravery. RIP. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

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08-17-09, 05:18 PM	#6
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I very much enjoyed the "Letter from the German Military Archives of 2/3/2009" (Exhibit number 249) to the Commission of Inquiry where a Dr. Menzel, Director of the Archives, gives his "assessment of a [certain] allegedly official document by the German Navy" cited in the book "The lost souls and ghosts of HMAS Sydney II 1941, dated 21 November 1941. http://www.defence.gov.au/sydneyii/E...005.0347_E.pdf Quote: "In average every second word of the thirteen lines of text -on top of everything written with a type writer font not used at that time- is misspelled. In part, English words are used. Clerks and official writers no matter of whichever administration [and] in whatever country, however, normally are proficient in the official language. There can be not mention of a command of the German language here though. The grammar is downright ludicrous!" "--an absolutely amateurish and altogether very clumsy forgery!--" LOL! To have command of the German language and grammar can be useful at times, at least, if you want to fake offical Navy documents. Go back to school! __________________

08-17-09, 01:28 PM	#4
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	If someone is interested: http://www.defence.gov.au/sydneyii/exhibits.htm Those are links to, what seems to be, the raw data that was used in the report. Some interesting stuff and many historical documents are accesible.