Subsim Narwhal Contest - Mod is now available, see post #662 - Page 20

keltos01 · 08-09-09, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FADM Gryphon

Well in the pics posted there is wood deck tecture on the ring on the bow aka Bullnose. It was slang that Sailors call it in reference to a ring in a bull's nose.

I was Kidding !

I noticed too but would have to see where that part's at in the uv map.

keltos

keltos01 · 08-09-09, 02:36 AM

Firing :

Peabody made us a dedicated double 6 inch gun with all relevant files and sounds (not a pea shooter this one !) notice how different it is from the stock 4.7 inch, different crew too.

it uses Sledgehammer 6 inch 3d model.

I'll make a dedicated parts T01 texture and an AO/uv maps for all 3 parts so it doesn't come out black.

but we now have a Narwhal with its real life guns !

still have to check the 3d model against RL pictures.

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 08-09-09, 02:50 AM

awesome!
Uber thanks to Peabody!

keltos01 · 08-09-09, 10:18 AM

the game model :

@ Sledge : I guess this is a clone of one of the guns in the gunsradar.dat ? I did that at first too when I made the IJN 5.5 inch DG
(visible here : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...141869&page=25), but I had to add a lot of details to it : those pentagonal thingies really are wheels in RL.. etc...

I can make a clone of the one you see in the RL picture here above like the one I did for the IJN

rendering barrel AO map... boy does it take time...

the finished gun 3d should really look like the above - any blueprint, good pictures welcome (that's how I made the original IJN 5.5 inch gun)

keltos

FADM Gryphon · 08-09-09, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

I was Kidding !

I noticed too but would have to see where that part's at in the uv map.

keltos

Lol maybe they found a wooden bull????

Sledgehammer427 · 08-09-09, 11:12 PM

Kelt, That is a clone, per se, but I made an all new gun because the original 3d models were really polygonal, and I don't think many people would apreciate a pentagonal gun barrel

but please, by all means, improve on what I've done, I don't mind at all!

FADM Gryphon · 08-09-09, 11:46 PM

Just found out the Narwhal was at Pearl Harbor during the attack. Guess you learn something new everyday.

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

Kelt, That is a clone, per se, but I made an all new gun because the original 3d models were really polygonal, and I don't think many people would apreciate a pentagonal gun barrel

but please, by all means, improve on what I've done, I don't mind at all!

I proceded in the same manner with the IJN 5.5 inch single and double DG.
at least the cloning gives us a size estimate, but I need intel on the Narwhal's 6 inchers !!!!
I know that as it is it works.. how far do we wanna go ?

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 08-10-09, 01:34 AM

from Wikipedia, our all-knowing source of things we have no knowledge of:
"Range was 12 miles (21 kilometers) at the maximum elevation of 25 degrees"
then
"United States naval gun terminology indicates the gun fired a projectile 6 inches (15 cm) in diameter, and the barrel was 53 calibers long. [The gun]used a silk bag containing 44-pounds (20 kg) of smokeless powder to give a 105-pound (47.6 kg) projectile a velocity of 3000 feet per second (900 m/s)."

let's go for ultimate realism, those guns sound absolutely vicious

the guns shown pretty well here

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 02:48 AM

as for :

"let's go for ultimate realism, those guns sound absolutely vicious"

I was afraid you were gonna say that...

look at picture here above then

that's how I do it in 3DS

but eventually I'll need that little IJN flag on the gun texture !

15 cm x 53 cal = 795 cm in length - breech included or excluded ?

keltos

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 03:05 AM

seen here above is a cylinder 795 cm in length 15 cm in diameter (= normal internal diameter of the gun, not outside diam)

see how big that is respective to the 6 inch ingame clone ?

I guess breech included in the length then !

keltos

ps : does anyone know how to make the textures, here a picture, appear at high resolution in 3DS studio max 9.0 ?

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 03:11 AM

here is the background picture scaled to the RL dimensions of the gun

keltos

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 03:25 AM

real life picture against 3D barrel

ps : does anyone know how to make the textures, here a picture, appear at high resolution in 3DS studio max 9.0 ?

keltos01 · 08-10-09, 03:41 AM

Mare Island, CA, March 28 1943 - SS167 Narwhal.

[edit :]

in S3D (basic texture and AO maps) :

A one picture mix of all the pictures I have found of the Narwhal's 6 inch guns.

keltos

FADM Gryphon · 08-10-09, 07:39 PM

Hats off to you Keltos & Sledgehammer427, until I started working on my skin I didn't realize how long it takes to do one. And I am only doing the skin I can't image the time spend building one from the ground up. Keltos how many hour have you put into the Narwhal?

08-09-09, 02:36 AM	#287
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Firing : Peabody made us a dedicated double 6 inch gun with all relevant files and sounds (not a pea shooter this one !) notice how different it is from the stock 4.7 inch, different crew too. it uses Sledgehammer 6 inch 3d model. I'll make a dedicated parts T01 texture and an AO/uv maps for all 3 parts so it doesn't come out black. but we now have a Narwhal with its real life guns ! still have to check the 3d model against RL pictures. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-09-09 at 07:53 AM.

08-09-09, 02:50 AM	#288
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	awesome! Uber thanks to Peabody! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-09-09, 10:18 AM	#289
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	the game model : @ Sledge : I guess this is a clone of one of the guns in the gunsradar.dat ? I did that at first too when I made the IJN 5.5 inch DG (visible here : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...141869&page=25), but I had to add a lot of details to it : those pentagonal thingies really are wheels in RL.. etc... I can make a clone of the one you see in the RL picture here above like the one I did for the IJN rendering barrel AO map... boy does it take time... the finished gun 3d should really look like the above - any blueprint, good pictures welcome (that's how I made the original IJN 5.5 inch gun) keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-09-09 at 10:41 AM.

08-09-09, 11:12 PM	#291
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	Kelt, That is a clone, per se, but I made an all new gun because the original 3d models were really polygonal, and I don't think many people would apreciate a pentagonal gun barrel but please, by all means, improve on what I've done, I don't mind at all! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-09-09, 11:46 PM	#292
FADM Gryphon Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tacoma,Wa Posts: 253 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 1	Just found out the Narwhal was at Pearl Harbor during the attack. Guess you learn something new everyday. __________________ Home of the Unorthodox Naval Shipyard

08-10-09, 01:34 AM	#294
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	from Wikipedia, our all-knowing source of things we have no knowledge of: "Range was 12 miles (21 kilometers) at the maximum elevation of 25 degrees" then "United States naval gun terminology indicates the gun fired a projectile 6 inches (15 cm) in diameter, and the barrel was 53 calibers long. [The gun]used a silk bag containing 44-pounds (20 kg) of smokeless powder to give a 105-pound (47.6 kg) projectile a velocity of 3000 feet per second (900 m/s)." let's go for ultimate realism, those guns sound absolutely vicious the guns shown pretty well here __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C! Last edited by Sledgehammer427; 08-10-09 at 02:42 AM.

08-10-09, 02:48 AM	#295
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	as for : "let's go for ultimate realism, those guns sound absolutely vicious" I was afraid you were gonna say that... look at picture here above then that's how I do it in 3DS but eventually I'll need that little IJN flag on the gun texture ! 15 cm x 53 cal = 795 cm in length - breech included or excluded ? keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-10-09, 03:05 AM	#296
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	seen here above is a cylinder 795 cm in length 15 cm in diameter (= normal internal diameter of the gun, not outside diam) see how big that is respective to the 6 inch ingame clone ? I guess breech included in the length then ! keltos ps : does anyone know how to make the textures, here a picture, appear at high resolution in 3DS studio max 9.0 ? __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-10-09, 03:11 AM	#297
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	here is the background picture scaled to the RL dimensions of the gun keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-10-09, 03:25 AM	#298
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	real life picture against 3D barrel ps : does anyone know how to make the textures, here a picture, appear at high resolution in 3DS studio max 9.0 ? __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-10-09 at 03:40 AM.

08-10-09, 03:41 AM	#299
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Mare Island, CA, March 28 1943 - SS167 Narwhal. [edit :] in S3D (basic texture and AO maps) : A one picture mix of all the pictures I have found of the Narwhal's 6 inch guns. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-10-09 at 09:57 AM.

08-10-09, 07:39 PM	#300
FADM Gryphon Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tacoma,Wa Posts: 253 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 1	Hats off to you Keltos & Sledgehammer427, until I started working on my skin I didn't realize how long it takes to do one. And I am only doing the skin I can't image the time spend building one from the ground up. Keltos how many hour have you put into the Narwhal? __________________ Home of the Unorthodox Naval Shipyard