It will be the end of the Democrats as a Party

SteamWake · 08-09-09, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

While this may be true, one misconception I keep seeing is that if you go to the emergency room with no insurance they don't just treat you and say "No insurance? Oh well, I guess you don't have to pay! See ya!" They do bill you, and it's quite pricey. I know from experience.

The point is that you do recieve care and quite often 'cash' paying clients pay a smaller bill.

They bill you in good faith more or less 'hoping' that you will pay your debt.

Platapus · 08-09-09, 12:31 PM

They also follow up as The Frau's "adult" daughter found out. The kid thought that because she did not have insurance that she could just go to the ER and "forget" to pay the bill.

She has to appear in court later this month where she will most likely have her future wages garnished to pay for her ER bill.

So yeah, the hospitals are going after people who don't pay their bills.. and good for them. There is no more "hope they will pay" They are going after the non-payers.

SteamWake · 08-09-09, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

They also follow up as The Frau's "adult" daughter found out. The kid thought that because she did not have insurance that she could just go to the ER and "forget" to pay the bill.

She has to appear in court later this month where she will most likely have her future wages garnished to pay for her ER bill.

So yeah, the hospitals are going after people who don't pay their bills.. and good for them. There is no more "hope they will pay" They are going after the non-payers.

But in the case of an illegal ailen the phrase "Blood from a stone" comes to mind.

mookiemookie · 08-09-09, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

But in the case of an illegal ailen the phrase "Blood from a stone" comes to mind.

People bleeding to death in the street is a better alternative?

SteamWake · 08-09-09, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

People bleeding to death in the street is a better alternative?

Now how do you get here from there?

I was saying that care is given with the 'hope' that they will be payed, as opposed to turning them away and letting them bleed to death in the street.

Honestly

Platapus · 08-09-09, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

People bleeding to death in the street is a better alternative?

that is a real good point.

It is easy to type real tough on an internet forum. But will the American people have the stomach to see people literally dying in the gutter. Not locked away where they can die without upsetting little Junior or Sally, but right there in the street.

Or walking past lines of people begging for money to be able to buy the medication for their children or spouse.

That is what will happen if this country adopts the attitude of "if you can't afford healthcare tough". People won't suddenly stop getting sick/injured.

The result will be sick and injured people not getting medical care.

What will happen if a father has a very sick child and can't afford health care.... and he has a gun? What would you do if your daughter was dying and you could not afford health care and the country was telling you "hey father, we can't care for your dying daughter but we are sure you recognize that it is better for everyone else if your daughter dies."? I bet many of us would do "anything" to save our daughter/son.

What would be the cost to our society then?

I don't know what the solution is. I don't know if the proposed health plans are the solution either. But I am confident that the solution is not "no cash, no medical care". There has to be a better way than just letting people die in the gutter. I hope we have come a long way from the 19th century in this.

Task Force · 08-09-09, 02:27 PM

I think that the healthcare should be offered to people who need it, and If you dont need it, then you keep you current plan or keep your current plan if you want, this is america, we should have a choice.

so people who have health care (ex there job provides it.)

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	They also follow up as The Frau's "adult" daughter found out. The kid thought that because she did not have insurance that she could just go to the ER and "forget" to pay the bill. She has to appear in court later this month where she will most likely have her future wages garnished to pay for her ER bill. So yeah, the hospitals are going after people who don't pay their bills.. and good for them. There is no more "hope they will pay" They are going after the non-payers. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think that the healthcare should be offered to people who need it, and If you dont need it, then you keep you current plan or keep your current plan if you want, this is america, we should have a choice. so people who have health care (ex there job provides it.) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"