[REL] Easy AOB - Page 8

mainexpress · 07-27-09, 02:56 AM

Ive been practicing with this Mod in the torpedo training against the mogami cruiser,and doing exactly the steps that nicolas shows on his video,when i calculate the speed i get usually 5 to 6 knots,and with that speed reading,ive been missing all my shots every time,but i notice that nicolas gets 10 knots on the cruiser when he clicks on the stopwatch and inputs it thereafter into the TDC,i therefore tried the training mission again and put in 10 knots manually,and fired all my torps this time they all hit.So why is it im getting bogus speed estimations on my target when i click on the stopwatch with this mod

I'm goin' down · 07-27-09, 04:15 AM

mainexpress, that is an INTERESTING question.

It should not be happening as I just whacked a freigther which damn near ran my boat down (carelessly, I had my periscope pointedt the wrong direction), and it was doing 7 knots. (I sank itt it with a torpedo at 600-700 ydst, so now I can sleep peacefully). However, its speed was not 6 kts. Easy AoB is a great tool and in theory it should work at speed of less than 7 kts. or less. Is your range/aspect ratio correct (dial on the upper right)?

mainexpress · 07-27-09, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

mainexpress, that is an INTERESTING question.

It should not be happening as I just whacked a freigther which damn near ran my boat down (carelessly, I had my periscope pointedt the wrong direction), and it was doing 7 knots. (I sank itt it with a torpedo at 600-700 ydst, so now I can sleep peacefully). However, its speed was not 6 kts. Easy AoB is a great tool and in theory it should work at speed of less than 7 kts. or less. Is your range/aspect ratio correct (dial on the upper right)?

Im doing everything correctly according to nicolas training video,but im getting incorrect speed readings,the range finder seems to be working good,this mod will not work for me unless i can get proper speed readings.just to let you know i have the folder TGT DIALS TO PK FIX-RFB in my mods folder then enabled via JSGME.I just tried the torpedo training school again and once more its saying 5 knots.

when i know that mogami is doing 10 knts.

Piggy · 07-27-09, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mainexpress

Im doing everything correctly according to nicolas training video,but im getting incorrect speed readings,the range finder seems to be working good,this mod will not work for me unless i can get proper speed readings.just to let you know i have the folder TGT DIALS TO PK FIX-RFB in my mods folder then enabled via JSGME.I just tried the torpedo training school again and once more its saying 5 knots.

when i know that mogami is doing 10 knts.

I'm getting the exact same thing, using DAILS TO PK FIX-RFB as well, so you're not alone.

I'm goin' down · 07-27-09, 11:36 PM

Nicolas is in Guatemala. How his boat ended up there is beyond me. I suggest you send him a private message.

mainexpress · 07-27-09, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Piggy

I'm getting the exact same thing, using DAILS TO PK FIX-RFB as well, so you're not alone.

Hi piggy yeah its weird,allthough im doing my career right now,and i just fired 4 shots on the port side of a raked bow split freighter,from about 1800 out and they all struck on target,unfortunately they were all duds

go figure with those Mark 14s,So maybe its working now,try it in your career M8.

Piggy · 07-28-09, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mainexpress

Hi piggy yeah its weird,allthough im doing my career right now,and i just fired 4 shots on the port side of a raked bow split freighter,from about 1800 out and they all struck on target,unfortunately they were all duds

go figure with those Mark 14s,So maybe its working now,try it in your career M8.

Yeah I tried my career out last night, however in two hours of playing I only came across 1 ship, crappy patrol area. However the good news is it worked, I had calculated the speed manually using the 3 minute rule and also using the method described here, both came up with 12 knots!

I can only assume its the short amount of time you get to track the target in the training mission. Longer periods to get bearing/range seem to provide a more accurate plot. Makes sense of course. This little tool/mod had really made the game a lot more fun.

Prophet · 08-07-09, 11:29 PM

I tried getting this mod, I have 1.4. The Target AOB indicator in the position keeper window (right panel) doesn't change when I rotate the AOB dial (left dial). It stays pointed straight down. Everything else works fine, though. I don't know what to do.

I'm goin' down · 08-07-09, 11:56 PM

Hmm. A profhet asking a question? Seems strange. We should be asking you to profhesize!

Make sure you have the correct mod for your game. Do you have SH4 1.5? you should be able to load several versions of the mod and one should function properly. Keep the PK off.

Prophet · 08-08-09, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

Hmm. A profhet asking a question? Seems strange. We should be asking you to profhesize!

Make sure you have the correct mod for your game. Do you have SH4 1.5? you should be able to load several versions of the mod and one should function properly. Keep the PK off.

I have 1.4. Is there a version for it?

I'm goin' down · 08-08-09, 01:22 PM

Nicolas came up with the Easy AoB mod for AoB only. Here is the original JGSME version. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBN3NQ0D. Then ddgrn modified the original by including speed and range adaptations. His download is for SH4 1.5 (U-Boat missions), TMO, RFB, and GFO. It also works in FOTRS. The links to ddgrn's downloads are in the Easy AoB sticky in the mods forum.

If you are playing version 1.4, I recommend you download the U-Boat missions, so you can use ddgrn's adaptations. It costs about $10.

I do not know if the original Easy AoB mod and ddgrn's adaptations will work in SH4 1.4, as that version is out of date somewhat.

If you have problems send a private message to ddgrn and Nicolas. They collaborated to create a teriffic mod.

I see you are a fairly new skipper. Welcome aboard if that is the case.

Prophet · 08-08-09, 03:55 PM

All I really want is the AoB mod, I don't really need the speed/range thing. How do I make that work?

EDIT: I can use the speed/range part of the mod, somehow. Now how do I get the AoB part working?

I'm goin' down · 08-08-09, 05:10 PM

I assume you have activated the original mod by Nicolas, although your question is unclear. Here is the short version. Assuming the mod is activated and you have set the Target's speed accurately, I think your question is "How do I use it?"

There are two ships' AoB dials used on the TDC on the Targeting screen. They work in tandem.

Let's assume the target on a true course of 320 degrees.

1. Dial on the upper right: click on the AoB, and manually rotate the Target until it matches its true course (i.e. 320 degrees). (You can determine the Target's course by plotting it. First, open the compass tool. Second, open the rule tool and mark its course with the ruler tool. Both of these tools are located on the Map screen. Read the bottom of the compass to determine course, which in our example is 320 degrees.)

2. Ships' Dial on the upper left: When you rotate the ship on the AoB dial on the upper rigjht, you will notice that Target ship on the on the top of the dial on the upper left rotates correspondingly, as it operates in tandem with the Target in AoB dial on the upper right. Rotate the ship in the AoB dial on the upper right until dial on the Target ship on the upper left matches the Target's course (i.e. 320 degrees). You have now set the AoB to the Target's true course.

3. Before firing torpedoes, check the dial on the upper left to ensure its settings match the Target's true course. If it does, turn on the PK, set the range/aspect ratio. If it does not, adjust it.

You are almost ready to fire torpedoes.

4. To verify your settings, click the Attack map and click a torpedo tube. The torpedo angle and course line of the Target will appear and should intersect or be very close to intercepting if the target speed has been set correctly.

5. Fire.

If this does not help you out, then I will leave it to another captain to resolve your issue.

Prophet · 08-08-09, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

2. Ships' Dial on the upper left: When you rotate the ship on the AoB dial on the upper rigjht, you will notice that Target ship on the on the top of the dial on the upper left rotates correspondingly, as it operates in tandem with the Target in AoB dial on the upper right. Rotate the ship in the AoB dial on the upper right until dial on the Target ship on the upper left matches the Target's course (i.e. 320 degrees). You have now set the AoB to the Target's true course.

This does not happen when I rotate the AoB. My problem is not with using the mod, but with installing it apparently. I can operate the mod if it were installed properly. I tried using JPGEM, that didn't work, so then I tried manually editing the dials.cfg file, that didn't work, then I tried the mod from that Rapidshare link, that didn't work.

I'm goin' down · 08-08-09, 08:46 PM

no more suggestions here other than to reinstall the game. Ask ddgrn. Be careful editing the files and then using a mod installed via JGSME.

07-27-09, 04:15 AM	#107
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	I almost don't care, but.... mainexpress, that is an INTERESTING question. It should not be happening as I just whacked a freigther which damn near ran my boat down (carelessly, I had my periscope pointedt the wrong direction), and it was doing 7 knots. (I sank itt it with a torpedo at 600-700 ydst, so now I can sleep peacefully). However, its speed was not 6 kts. Easy AoB is a great tool and in theory it should work at speed of less than 7 kts. or less. Is your range/aspect ratio correct (dial on the upper right)?

07-27-09, 11:36 PM	#110
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	Oh, Mr. Nicolas? Nicolas is in Guatemala. How his boat ended up there is beyond me. I suggest you send him a private message.

08-07-09, 11:56 PM	#114
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	you are asking us? Hmm. A profhet asking a question? Seems strange. We should be asking you to profhesize! Make sure you have the correct mod for your game. Do you have SH4 1.5? you should be able to load several versions of the mod and one should function properly. Keep the PK off.

08-08-09, 01:22 PM	#116
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	okay, here it is Nicolas came up with the Easy AoB mod for AoB only. Here is the original JGSME version. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBN3NQ0D. Then ddgrn modified the original by including speed and range adaptations. His download is for SH4 1.5 (U-Boat missions), TMO, RFB, and GFO. It also works in FOTRS. The links to ddgrn's downloads are in the Easy AoB sticky in the mods forum. If you are playing version 1.4, I recommend you download the U-Boat missions, so you can use ddgrn's adaptations. It costs about $10. I do not know if the original Easy AoB mod and ddgrn's adaptations will work in SH4 1.4, as that version is out of date somewhat. If you have problems send a private message to ddgrn and Nicolas. They collaborated to create a teriffic mod. I see you are a fairly new skipper. Welcome aboard if that is the case.

08-08-09, 05:10 PM	#118
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	not sure of your question. I assume you have activated the original mod by Nicolas, although your question is unclear. Here is the short version. Assuming the mod is activated and you have set the Target's speed accurately, I think your question is "How do I use it?" There are two ships' AoB dials used on the TDC on the Targeting screen. They work in tandem. Let's assume the target on a true course of 320 degrees. 1. Dial on the upper right: click on the AoB, and manually rotate the Target until it matches its true course (i.e. 320 degrees). (You can determine the Target's course by plotting it. First, open the compass tool. Second, open the rule tool and mark its course with the ruler tool. Both of these tools are located on the Map screen. Read the bottom of the compass to determine course, which in our example is 320 degrees.) 2. Ships' Dial on the upper left: When you rotate the ship on the AoB dial on the upper rigjht, you will notice that Target ship on the on the top of the dial on the upper left rotates correspondingly, as it operates in tandem with the Target in AoB dial on the upper right. Rotate the ship in the AoB dial on the upper right until dial on the Target ship on the upper left matches the Target's course (i.e. 320 degrees). You have now set the AoB to the Target's true course. 3. Before firing torpedoes, check the dial on the upper left to ensure its settings match the Target's true course. If it does, turn on the PK, set the range/aspect ratio. If it does not, adjust it. You are almost ready to fire torpedoes. 4. To verify your settings, click the Attack map and click a torpedo tube. The torpedo angle and course line of the Target will appear and should intersect or be very close to intercepting if the target speed has been set correctly. 5. Fire. If this does not help you out, then I will leave it to another captain to resolve your issue.

07-27-09, 02:56 AM	#106
mainexpress Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Francisco home of the U.S.S. Pampanito Posts: 222 Downloads: 294 Uploads: 0	Ive been practicing with this Mod in the torpedo training against the mogami cruiser,and doing exactly the steps that nicolas shows on his video,when i calculate the speed i get usually 5 to 6 knots,and with that speed reading,ive been missing all my shots every time,but i notice that nicolas gets 10 knots on the cruiser when he clicks on the stopwatch and inputs it thereafter into the TDC,i therefore tried the training mission again and put in 10 knots manually,and fired all my torps this time they all hit.So why is it im getting bogus speed estimations on my target when i click on the stopwatch with this mod

08-07-09, 11:29 PM	#113
Prophet Seaman Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 33 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I tried getting this mod, I have 1.4. The Target AOB indicator in the position keeper window (right panel) doesn't change when I rotate the AOB dial (left dial). It stays pointed straight down. Everything else works fine, though. I don't know what to do.

08-08-09, 03:55 PM	#117
Prophet Seaman Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 33 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	All I really want is the AoB mod, I don't really need the speed/range thing. How do I make that work? EDIT: I can use the speed/range part of the mod, somehow. Now how do I get the AoB part working?

08-08-09, 08:46 PM	#120
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	you need help no more suggestions here other than to reinstall the game. Ask ddgrn. Be careful editing the files and then using a mod installed via JGSME.