Just venting, no need to read!

KeybdFlyer · 08-02-09, 03:19 PM

Yep, there is a trial version of RegVac, I'll probably be d/l that later... though the reason I'll be doing that is slightly amusing. I d/l VLC player earlier, installed and check-marked the "Context Menu" option at install. Right-clicked on a .ogg file but saw no context entry. "Hmm", I thought, "Must've forgotten to check that option." So, finding no preference choice (obviously) to add it, I uninstalled & re-installed ensuring I'd checked it this time. All fine, yes? No. lol. Now I have TWO sets of context menu entries to choose from! Apparently the software needs a re-boot to apply it's options (but doesn't tell you it needs that) and doesn't remove all its registry entries at uninstallation. Anyway - I've managed to remove said menu entries, but think I'll d/l RegVac or similar to make life easier next time!

Sometimes I wish I was half as clever as I think I am, 'cause then I'd be clever enough to realise I'm not clever enough to mess around with computers!

@Sailor Steve Ha ha ha - yes, the trials & tribulations of maintaining SH3! I also bought SH3 right after release and have also never finished a career, for very similar reasons too; though more usually involving computers that seem to revel in going "boom" just as I'm getting the hang of some piece of software or other. I'm sure you know the old maxim re. "sympathy" and its location in the dictionary, so I feel no loss for the lack of it!

Jimbuna · 08-02-09, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeybdFlyer

Sometimes I wish I was half as clever as I think I am, 'cause then I'd be clever enough to realise I'm not clever enough to mess around with computers!

None of us is as clever as all of us.....together there is a good chance we can sort out most of the problems encountered here

KeybdFlyer · 08-02-09, 04:06 PM

@jimbuna
Just a thought before I load-up SH3 and see if my latest save works,

. I found the link to your gramophone .ogg files and d/l the lot. Plenty there for me to add - many thanks for the upload.

Some (not that many) are a bit rough around the edges, so I've taken the liberty of removing as much of the surface noise, pops & clicks etc as I could and have also adjusted the bass/mid/treble balance (when the voices were getting a little lost in the music) and maximised the volume (full dynamic range - no clipping). Hope you don't mind! I think I'll also mention that I found a sound file online of an actual ship's telegraph and amended the "stock" GWX sound with it to remove that telephone bell noise! (In fact, I've messed around with dozens of the sound files to get the sound I feel is just right - doesn't everybody?

). Now my gramophone collection is rounding-out nicely! Thanks again!

Jimbuna · 08-02-09, 04:28 PM

Of course I don't mind.

Pleased your enjoying the music (all 10

) I'll be posting file no 11 in a few days.

For the telegraph I use the No Ring Ring mod by Melandir.

PappyCain · 08-02-09, 05:03 PM

Some (not that many) are a bit rough around the edges, so I've taken the liberty of removing as much of the surface noise, pops & clicks etc as I could and have also adjusted the bass/mid/treble balance.

LOL. That is how the platters sounded complete with scratches from the needle as it gouged the grooves - very authentic stuff. I bet many platter was scratched when the sea pitched the boat, sloppy sailors mishandled and especially when the ALARM! sounded and an out of control the needle arm swung wildly to the dismay of the record owner! The records were made of a material that cracked and warped. Yep, I grew up with them at home (no, not my rest home).

78 rpm materials:

Early disc records were made of various materials including hard rubber. From 1897 onwards, earlier materials were largely replaced by a rather brittle formula of 25% shellac, a filler of a cotton compound similar to manila paper, powdered slate, and a small amount of a wax lubricant. The mass production of shellac records began in 1898 in Hanover, Germany, and continued until the end of the 78-rpm format in the late 1950s. "Unbreakable" records, usually of celluloid on a pasteboard base, were made from 1904 onwards, but they suffered from an exceptionally high level of surface noise. "Unbreakable" records could be bent, broken, or otherwise damaged; but not nearly as easily as shellac records. Vinyl was first tried out as a 78 rpm record material in 1940 due to material restrictions. Decca introduced vinyl "Deccalite" 78s after the Second World War, and Victor made some vinyl 78s, but other labels would restrict vinyl production to the newer 33 and 45 formats

KeybdFlyer · 08-02-09, 05:37 PM

Hi PappyCain

Yep, quite agree with your comments, but also bear in mind that at the time, the records were brand new (or pretty new). I'm old enough to have actually bought 78s at the time of release (omg - that old!) and we didn't buy them covered in scratches lol. Anyway - I haven't removed ALL the surface noise, there's still that very slight hiss that you could hear from the needle. (Bamboo or steel for this one dad?

)

PappyCain · 08-03-09, 06:22 AM

Hi KeybdFlyer

Ah yes! I can remember buying 78 vinyl albums myself which appeared after WWII - and inheriting my father's from his his mispent youth (Frank Sinatra etc). The pre-war material did have a hell of a lot of noise in them even new actually as the material for the 78's was poor and pre-vinyl - they broke (shattered) easly when dropped whereas my post war 78's could be tossed about (Beatles etc.). I have a collection of pre-war opera (Yikes don't run!) and were well cared for by a deceased collector. Someday I should get them digitized and remove some of the noise (not that bad as they did not have kids playing them) but I have a war to wage and my boat needs me LOL. I am glad you cleaned them up and I am sure many will appreciate. Jimbunas collection is great.

How would you suggest taking the files Jimbuna assembled and place them onto a DVD or into a MP3 thingy ( can tell I am not an audiophile ) soz I can listen to them anytime without firing up the game? BTW I was in the UK last month and wished I could have listened to the WW2 era music as I drove the coastline! I fly the BoB and went to a few spots like Tangmere and could see the Channel and visualize the air combat. Needed a sound track in my head!

08-02-09, 04:28 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,544 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Of course I don't mind. Pleased your enjoying the music (all 10 ) I'll be posting file no 11 in a few days. For the telegraph I use the No Ring Ring mod by Melandir. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-02-09, 05:03 PM	#5
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Some (not that many) are a bit rough around the edges, so I've taken the liberty of removing as much of the surface noise, pops & clicks etc as I could and have also adjusted the bass/mid/treble balance. LOL. That is how the platters sounded complete with scratches from the needle as it gouged the grooves - very authentic stuff. I bet many platter was scratched when the sea pitched the boat, sloppy sailors mishandled and especially when the ALARM! sounded and an out of control the needle arm swung wildly to the dismay of the record owner! The records were made of a material that cracked and warped. Yep, I grew up with them at home (no, not my rest home). 78 rpm materials: Early disc records were made of various materials including hard rubber. From 1897 onwards, earlier materials were largely replaced by a rather brittle formula of 25% shellac, a filler of a cotton compound similar to manila paper, powdered slate, and a small amount of a wax lubricant. The mass production of shellac records began in 1898 in Hanover, Germany, and continued until the end of the 78-rpm format in the late 1950s. "Unbreakable" records, usually of celluloid on a pasteboard base, were made from 1904 onwards, but they suffered from an exceptionally high level of surface noise. "Unbreakable" records could be bent, broken, or otherwise damaged; but not nearly as easily as shellac records. Vinyl was first tried out as a 78 rpm record material in 1940 due to material restrictions. Decca introduced vinyl "Deccalite" 78s after the Second World War, and Victor made some vinyl 78s, but other labels would restrict vinyl production to the newer 33 and 45 formats __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

08-03-09, 06:22 AM	#7
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hi KeybdFlyer Ah yes! I can remember buying 78 vinyl albums myself which appeared after WWII - and inheriting my father's from his his mispent youth (Frank Sinatra etc). The pre-war material did have a hell of a lot of noise in them even new actually as the material for the 78's was poor and pre-vinyl - they broke (shattered) easly when dropped whereas my post war 78's could be tossed about (Beatles etc.). I have a collection of pre-war opera (Yikes don't run!) and were well cared for by a deceased collector. Someday I should get them digitized and remove some of the noise (not that bad as they did not have kids playing them) but I have a war to wage and my boat needs me LOL. I am glad you cleaned them up and I am sure many will appreciate. Jimbunas collection is great. How would you suggest taking the files Jimbuna assembled and place them onto a DVD or into a MP3 thingy ( can tell I am not an audiophile ) soz I can listen to them anytime without firing up the game? BTW I was in the UK last month and wished I could have listened to the WW2 era music as I drove the coastline! I fly the BoB and went to a few spots like Tangmere and could see the Channel and visualize the air combat. Needed a sound track in my head! __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html Last edited by PappyCain; 08-03-09 at 06:34 AM.

08-02-09, 03:19 PM	#1
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Yep, there is a trial version of RegVac, I'll probably be d/l that later... though the reason I'll be doing that is slightly amusing. I d/l VLC player earlier, installed and check-marked the "Context Menu" option at install. Right-clicked on a .ogg file but saw no context entry. "Hmm", I thought, "Must've forgotten to check that option." So, finding no preference choice (obviously) to add it, I uninstalled & re-installed ensuring I'd checked it this time. All fine, yes? No. lol. Now I have TWO sets of context menu entries to choose from! Apparently the software needs a re-boot to apply it's options (but doesn't tell you it needs that) and doesn't remove all its registry entries at uninstallation. Anyway - I've managed to remove said menu entries, but think I'll d/l RegVac or similar to make life easier next time! Sometimes I wish I was half as clever as I think I am, 'cause then I'd be clever enough to realise I'm not clever enough to mess around with computers! @Sailor Steve Ha ha ha - yes, the trials & tribulations of maintaining SH3! I also bought SH3 right after release and have also never finished a career, for very similar reasons too; though more usually involving computers that seem to revel in going "boom" just as I'm getting the hang of some piece of software or other. I'm sure you know the old maxim re. "sympathy" and its location in the dictionary, so I feel no loss for the lack of it!

08-02-09, 04:06 PM	#3
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	@jimbuna Just a thought before I load-up SH3 and see if my latest save works, . I found the link to your gramophone .ogg files and d/l the lot. Plenty there for me to add - many thanks for the upload. Some (not that many) are a bit rough around the edges, so I've taken the liberty of removing as much of the surface noise, pops & clicks etc as I could and have also adjusted the bass/mid/treble balance (when the voices were getting a little lost in the music) and maximised the volume (full dynamic range - no clipping). Hope you don't mind! I think I'll also mention that I found a sound file online of an actual ship's telegraph and amended the "stock" GWX sound with it to remove that telephone bell noise! (In fact, I've messed around with dozens of the sound files to get the sound I feel is just right - doesn't everybody? ). Now my gramophone collection is rounding-out nicely! Thanks again!

08-02-09, 05:37 PM	#6
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Hi PappyCain Yep, quite agree with your comments, but also bear in mind that at the time, the records were brand new (or pretty new). I'm old enough to have actually bought 78s at the time of release (omg - that old!) and we didn't buy them covered in scratches lol. Anyway - I haven't removed ALL the surface noise, there's still that very slight hiss that you could hear from the needle. (Bamboo or steel for this one dad? )