Capitalism MUST Die ... Eventually - Page 2

SUBMAN1 · 07-31-09, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

Can't argue that.

-S

SteamWake · 07-31-09, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

Dont be so sure of that.

Even now grand efforts are in motion to put an end to capitolisim in the US and it has nothing to do with critical mass.

BTW whats with the big fonts?

FIREWALL · 07-31-09, 09:46 AM

My eyes don't focus that well in the early morning.

Need it big to see what I'm typeing.

Tchocky · 07-31-09, 09:52 AM

Put an end to capitalism...........lol.

GoldenRivet · 07-31-09, 11:43 AM

without regards to your opinions Aramike.

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

that doesnt work for me.

i vote no on socialism

Aramike · 07-31-09, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

My point is that, at some point, the crap will be so easily produced technologically that in order to excuse the heavy production of crap despite the waning buying power due to said technology, there will be an inevitable move towards socialism.

Aramike · 07-31-09, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

without regards to your opinions Aramike.

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

that doesnt work for me.

i vote no on socialism

You get me wrong, GR ... I'm not at all saying that I support socialism. Actually, I'm against it. But, I also fancy myself a free-thinker and no matter how I do the math, socialism ends up heavily in the equation. You can already see signs of it now, really...

Aramike · 07-31-09, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

There is a third choice, welfare, which as you know can be a way of life for some folks. After all why work for peanuts when you can make more sitting on your butt? But that still doesn't address the 20%s continued desire to have all those workers. I think that's not a given anymore.

You're assuming there will be an affluent middle class large enough to accommodate all that cheap labor. We're loosing jobs in those classes as well as technology replaces skill and talent with automation.

But I think your theory will work right up until it doesn't. That's when Madam Guillotine will make her appearance and everything goes to pot...

August, you understand perfectly what I was trying to say!

August · 07-31-09, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aramike

August, you understand perfectly what I was trying to say!

Great minds think alike and so do we!

FIREWALL · 07-31-09, 01:00 PM

Americans like to buy CRAP.

They don't want free CRAP.

We Americans were raised by the wisdom.

You appreciate CRAP more if, you worked hard for it.

Also, The best CRAP in life isn't free and so on.

AVGWarhawk · 07-31-09, 01:04 PM

Oh crap

Who is this capitalism and why must he die

Respenus · 07-31-09, 03:48 PM

Aramike, just a word of advice or better yet, a more detail explanation of what you wanted to say in your first post. What you spoke of was not socialism, far from it. What you spoke of was the idea of the welfare state, first put into affect by Keynes after the second world war. While his policies were in affect, even Friedman called himself a Keynesian and as we all know, he became the son of Smith with his idea of Monetarism. The problem is, the Keynesian demand-side economics have a tendency of becoming very expensive in the long run, as it was seen in the 60's and 70's with the Classical school of economics gaining in strength due to increasing public debt. Yet even the USA used Keynes policies.

Socialism, which has started its development in the late 18th century and became a part of mainstream thinking and afterwards, politics in the 19th, has a different premise, both economically and on the social and political level. Since even Europe cannot agree what Socialism means, I cannot tell what it means, yet true Socialism if far from a capitalist state, even if it is a welfare one, based on Keynesian politics.

I have to congratulate you though, you seem to be the first American (as far as I know), who has even began to start thinking about possible alternatives to the laissez-faire Capitalist system which the USA supports full heartedly.

So one more time to my American mates on these fine forums:

Bolshevism =/ Communism =/ Socialism =/ Social Democracy =/ Welfare state

TheBrauerHour · 07-31-09, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

+1

The thought of it ticks me off to no end.

SUBMAN1 · 07-31-09, 07:52 PM

That is worth more than +1. It is worth +5!

-S

Kptlt Thomsen · 07-31-09, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

I like your spirit

07-31-09, 09:46 AM	#18
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	My eyes don't focus that well in the early morning. Need it big to see what I'm typeing. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Put an end to capitalism...........lol. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-31-09, 11:43 AM	#20
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	without regards to your opinions Aramike. i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle". that doesnt work for me. i vote no on socialism __________________

07-31-09, 01:00 PM	#25
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Americans like to buy CRAP. They don't want free CRAP. We Americans were raised by the wisdom. You appreciate CRAP more if, you worked hard for it. Also, The best CRAP in life isn't free and so on. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-31-09, 03:48 PM	#27
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Aramike, just a word of advice or better yet, a more detail explanation of what you wanted to say in your first post. What you spoke of was not socialism, far from it. What you spoke of was the idea of the welfare state, first put into affect by Keynes after the second world war. While his policies were in affect, even Friedman called himself a Keynesian and as we all know, he became the son of Smith with his idea of Monetarism. The problem is, the Keynesian demand-side economics have a tendency of becoming very expensive in the long run, as it was seen in the 60's and 70's with the Classical school of economics gaining in strength due to increasing public debt. Yet even the USA used Keynes policies. Socialism, which has started its development in the late 18th century and became a part of mainstream thinking and afterwards, politics in the 19th, has a different premise, both economically and on the social and political level. Since even Europe cannot agree what Socialism means, I cannot tell what it means, yet true Socialism if far from a capitalist state, even if it is a welfare one, based on Keynesian politics. I have to congratulate you though, you seem to be the first American (as far as I know), who has even began to start thinking about possible alternatives to the laissez-faire Capitalist system which the USA supports full heartedly. So one more time to my American mates on these fine forums: Bolshevism =/ Communism =/ Socialism =/ Social Democracy =/ Welfare state __________________

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,305 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Oh crap Who is this capitalism and why must he die

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SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That is worth more than +1. It is worth +5! -S __________________