Capitalism MUST Die ... Eventually

SUBMAN1 · 07-31-09, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

The bathroom is the office I do my most important "business" in.

Thankfully it isn't ... Paperless.

Hahhahahahaha!

A leftist dream. I wonder if the left thinks this model can happen to the US? It can't. This country isn't cut out for it since it is the last free nation on this planet. A lot of leftist policies have been put in place, but they are near a breaking point since people will not continue to march down that road.

We need a new governmental agency for people with thoughts like this that helps them find an alternate country they would enjoy living in and gives them a free one way ticket anywhere in the world they want to go the moment they forfeit their citizenship. They are obviously not happy here. There are plenty of other Socialist countries they would be much happier in. That is until they go bankrupt. All Socialist societies go bankrupt eventually after they get overwhelmed with unaffordable welfare programs.

This will even happen to the US because we have some uncompatible socialist welfare programs in a Capitalist society, and that never works. Now they are trying the healthcare thing. That will break something guaranteed. And you wonder why more guns were sold than ever before, more than any army could use in the entire world since the beginning of this year. Things are breaking.

-S

FIREWALL · 07-31-09, 09:14 AM

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

SUBMAN1 · 07-31-09, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

Can't argue that.

-S

SteamWake · 07-31-09, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

Dont be so sure of that.

Even now grand efforts are in motion to put an end to capitolisim in the US and it has nothing to do with critical mass.

BTW whats with the big fonts?

FIREWALL · 07-31-09, 09:46 AM

My eyes don't focus that well in the early morning.

Need it big to see what I'm typeing.

Tchocky · 07-31-09, 09:52 AM

Put an end to capitalism...........lol.

GoldenRivet · 07-31-09, 11:43 AM

without regards to your opinions Aramike.

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

that doesnt work for me.

i vote no on socialism

Aramike · 07-31-09, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

without regards to your opinions Aramike.

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

that doesnt work for me.

i vote no on socialism

You get me wrong, GR ... I'm not at all saying that I support socialism. Actually, I'm against it. But, I also fancy myself a free-thinker and no matter how I do the math, socialism ends up heavily in the equation. You can already see signs of it now, really...

TheBrauerHour · 07-31-09, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle".

+1

The thought of it ticks me off to no end.

Aramike · 07-31-09, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

My point is that, at some point, the crap will be so easily produced technologically that in order to excuse the heavy production of crap despite the waning buying power due to said technology, there will be an inevitable move towards socialism.

Kptlt Thomsen · 07-31-09, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA.

Reason being ...

We like to buy CRAP.

We go into debt, to buy CRAP.

We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP.

Socalism don't stand a chance around here.

No matter which BOOB is running this country.

CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY.

I like your spirit

CaptainHaplo · 08-03-09, 05:19 PM

I take a few days off to get some sun, and I come back wondering where this board is going - and why we are all in this handbasket????

Seriously - capitalism isn't dead.

Know why? Because those in power rely on it to maintain power. Look at who is getting bailouts. Banks, corporations - the POWERS behind capitalism. Sure the government thinks they can "run" them better - aka healthcare - and you are already seeing the movement by many PRIVATE insurers to lower costs to the consumer to push against it. The fact is - those in power got there because of the 20% - and the 20% is the 20% BECAUSE of capitalism.

Sure this doesn't apply to em all - but lets look at an example. Know why Ford told the government "thanks but no thanks" on the bailout? They know that with the government running the show, their ability to capitalize on their market is hampered. Instead - by telling the government NO - sales of Ford products JUMPED - where GM continued to fall. Think thats coincidence? The smartest of the 20% know that they rely on capitalism to keep them where they are.

The biggest issue with socialism/communism is that its "fo-fairness" - its fake. Those in power always are above the masses they "lead". Corruption in socialist east germany was beyond rampant. Same with communist Russia. Sure its still there in some places - but the capitalist system (even as implimented) created a force that now is irreversable in many of the former Russian satellite states. Many times such things are cyclic, just as economies are - people want more for doing less - and initially they are given it - then they must be given less and less - for doing more and more. When that balance point tips - then the people again recognize the need for a system where their effort is rewarded.

This is why you see the liberal bent of many politicians - promise the masses all you can so they put you in power. But what happens when you must PAY for those promises? You must take from those who put you there. Many middle class people voted left this last election - and they are now slowly beginning to see what the cost of that is. This is the way of society. There is no "middle of the road" - its a pendulum one way or the other - swinging back and forth as the pitfalls of BOTH sides are exposed.

Capitalism won't die, because if it did, there would be no ability for the government to pay for its promises, and thus it would lose its power. To take a smaller picture as a example - smoking is unhealthy - drinking alcohol is unhealthy - does the government stop these things? No - it makes MONEY from them instead via taxation. If you think the government is out to look after your health with all its anti-smoking rhetoric (and make no mistake - that is what it is) - then ask yourself this - if it were not a cash cow for the government - would they even hesitate to ban it? You don't kill a golden goose - no matter how much you scare the public about avian flu....

FIREWALL · 08-03-09, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I take a few days off to get some sun, and I come back wondering where this board is going - and why we are all in this handbasket????

Seriously - capitalism isn't dead.

Know why? Because those in power rely on it to maintain power. Look at who is getting bailouts. Banks, corporations - the POWERS behind capitalism. Sure the government thinks they can "run" them better - aka healthcare - and you are already seeing the movement by many PRIVATE insurers to lower costs to the consumer to push against it. The fact is - those in power got there because of the 20% - and the 20% is the 20% BECAUSE of capitalism.

Sure this doesn't apply to em all - but lets look at an example. Know why Ford told the government "thanks but no thanks" on the bailout? They know that with the government running the show, their ability to capitalize on their market is hampered. Instead - by telling the government NO - sales of Ford products JUMPED - where GM continued to fall. Think thats coincidence? The smartest of the 20% know that they rely on capitalism to keep them where they are.

The biggest issue with socialism/communism is that its "fo-fairness" - its fake. Those in power always are above the masses they "lead". Corruption in socialist east germany was beyond rampant. Same with communist Russia. Sure its still there in some places - but the capitalist system (even as implimented) created a force that now is irreversable in many of the former Russian satellite states. Many times such things are cyclic, just as economies are - people want more for doing less - and initially they are given it - then they must be given less and less - for doing more and more. When that balance point tips - then the people again recognize the need for a system where their effort is rewarded.

This is why you see the liberal bent of many politicians - promise the masses all you can so they put you in power. But what happens when you must PAY for those promises? You must take from those who put you there. Many middle class people voted left this last election - and they are now slowly beginning to see what the cost of that is. This is the way of society. There is no "middle of the road" - its a pendulum one way or the other - swinging back and forth as the pitfalls of BOTH sides are exposed.

Capitalism won't die, because if it did, there would be no ability for the government to pay for its promises, and thus it would lose its power. To take a smaller picture as a example - smoking is unhealthy - drinking alcohol is unhealthy - does the government stop these things? No - it makes MONEY from them instead via taxation. If you think the government is out to look after your health with all its anti-smoking rhetoric (and make no mistake - that is what it is) - then ask yourself this - if it were not a cash cow for the government - would they even hesitate to ban it? You don't kill a golden goose - no matter how much you scare the public about avian flu....

Excellent Post

07-31-09, 09:14 AM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Capitalism will always be alive and wel in the USA. Reason being ... We like to buy CRAP. We go into debt, to buy CRAP. We go into bankrupcy so we can again, run out and buy CRAP. Socalism don't stand a chance around here. No matter which BOOB is running this country. CAPITALISM IS HERE TO STAY. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ??? Last edited by FIREWALL; 07-31-09 at 09:30 AM.

07-31-09, 09:46 AM	#5
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	My eyes don't focus that well in the early morning. Need it big to see what I'm typeing. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-31-09, 09:52 AM	#6
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Put an end to capitalism...........lol. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-31-09, 11:43 AM	#7
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	without regards to your opinions Aramike. i whole heartedly refuse to be taxed out the ass so that the crack addict single mother of 9 can continue to support her "lifestyle". that doesnt work for me. i vote no on socialism __________________

08-03-09, 05:19 PM	#12
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I take a few days off to get some sun, and I come back wondering where this board is going - and why we are all in this handbasket???? Seriously - capitalism isn't dead. Know why? Because those in power rely on it to maintain power. Look at who is getting bailouts. Banks, corporations - the POWERS behind capitalism. Sure the government thinks they can "run" them better - aka healthcare - and you are already seeing the movement by many PRIVATE insurers to lower costs to the consumer to push against it. The fact is - those in power got there because of the 20% - and the 20% is the 20% BECAUSE of capitalism. Sure this doesn't apply to em all - but lets look at an example. Know why Ford told the government "thanks but no thanks" on the bailout? They know that with the government running the show, their ability to capitalize on their market is hampered. Instead - by telling the government NO - sales of Ford products JUMPED - where GM continued to fall. Think thats coincidence? The smartest of the 20% know that they rely on capitalism to keep them where they are. The biggest issue with socialism/communism is that its "fo-fairness" - its fake. Those in power always are above the masses they "lead". Corruption in socialist east germany was beyond rampant. Same with communist Russia. Sure its still there in some places - but the capitalist system (even as implimented) created a force that now is irreversable in many of the former Russian satellite states. Many times such things are cyclic, just as economies are - people want more for doing less - and initially they are given it - then they must be given less and less - for doing more and more. When that balance point tips - then the people again recognize the need for a system where their effort is rewarded. This is why you see the liberal bent of many politicians - promise the masses all you can so they put you in power. But what happens when you must PAY for those promises? You must take from those who put you there. Many middle class people voted left this last election - and they are now slowly beginning to see what the cost of that is. This is the way of society. There is no "middle of the road" - its a pendulum one way or the other - swinging back and forth as the pitfalls of BOTH sides are exposed. Capitalism won't die, because if it did, there would be no ability for the government to pay for its promises, and thus it would lose its power. To take a smaller picture as a example - smoking is unhealthy - drinking alcohol is unhealthy - does the government stop these things? No - it makes MONEY from them instead via taxation. If you think the government is out to look after your health with all its anti-smoking rhetoric (and make no mistake - that is what it is) - then ask yourself this - if it were not a cash cow for the government - would they even hesitate to ban it? You don't kill a golden goose - no matter how much you scare the public about avian flu.... __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo