What am I missing?

Syxx_Killer · 07-27-09, 08:33 AM

For a long time I thought I liked to watch racing. I liked all sorts of motorsports from F1 to IRL to NASCAR and other series. For a while now, though, I just can't get into it anymore. It has gotten boring to me. It's like watching a type of high speed parade. Road courses don't have much overtaking and oval courses usually turn out the same - if you seen one you seen them all (just who wins seems to change). I'm tired of seeing races won or lost in the pits and a single file progression around the track when watching road courses. It seems as if there is no real "racing" anymore. I don't even bother tracking races anymore. How do you think I could make it interesting again?

I'd love to actually go to an event, but they are just too far away.

Skybird · 07-27-09, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

What am I missing?

Nothing.

If you are no longer interested, then you are no longer interested. There is no obligation for you to be interested - so why pushing for it?

Times change, so do men - so do you. Old interests may fade out, new interests may come in.

SteamWake · 07-27-09, 08:58 AM

Well if you do go to a live event your in for quite a shock.

I went to daytona and was amazed as to how different it 'really' is when compared to how its portrayed on television.

The cars bounce and sway much more violently, the sound, the smells, you will never look at racing the same again.

Now that being said, I think that in a lot of ways parity has led to boring racing. Every one is so equal that they run around bunched up nose to tail till a mistake is made and then they all pile into one another

Back to daytona I specifically remember the pack of competetive cars come roaring by, followed a few moments later by the wannabes with misfiring notes putterng by. It was strange there was the A group and then the rest.

Schroeder · 07-27-09, 09:11 AM

Try watching Rallies. Over here they are usually broadcasted at a horrible time but at least they don't get so boring simply because of the driving style (especially on gravel and snow).

SteamWake · 07-27-09, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Try watching Rallies. Over here they are usually broadcasted at a horrible time but at least they don't get so boring simply because of the driving style (especially on gravel and snow).

They almost never televise Rally's here in the States with the exception of highlight shows which break down into a series of crashfests.

AVGWarhawk · 07-27-09, 09:54 AM

Stock car racing died for me directly after they stopped using stock cars. The days of old were you raced them Sunday and drove them to work on Monday are long gone. Today it is tubed frames, fiberglass body and a whole bunch of rules. Where is the fun in that?

AJ! · 07-27-09, 02:50 PM

The answer is simple. Motorbike racing. Formula 1 and car racing in general follow the same trend, which is one long line of cars following each other round for countless laps with maybe the odd overtake and crash. most cars are too large to over take each other on the more technical tracks.

Motorcycles on the other hand are small enough to over take each other in the middle of a corner while almost horizontal. Its very fast, very dangerous and very entertaining.

Motogp for example has had some nail biting finishes in recent races much like the final race of last years F1. Unlike F1 however this is a regular occurrence in the GP. There are more crashes and as you would expect the bike crashes are more spectacular too

Now im a man who loves cars too and basically any sort of engineering. So while i do love motorbikes i would love to see some car racing as intense as the bikes but at the moment its just not happening

Geno_Mariner · 07-27-09, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

They almost never televise Rally's here in the States with the exception of highlight shows which break down into a series of crashfests.

Boy, that sucks

Onkel Neal · 07-27-09, 07:13 PM

Motocross

The Speed Channel shows the races weekly on the Nationals circuit (Supercross season just concluded). Now that I can reliably find the race each week (and TIVO it), I have gotten back into MX in a big way. There aren't any chubby, middle-age men racing MX, let me tell you. Other than soccer players, no sport is as physically demanding as MX. These guys are actually athletes, taking incredible punishment from the track, using their bodies to manage the machine, as opposed to sitting on their butts, twisting a wheel.

Forget about "drafting", you draft in MX, you get a face full of high-velocity dirt!

Next race is Aug 15 at Unadilla. Check it out.

Syxx_Killer · 07-27-09, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner

Boy, that sucks

I agree. Rally racing is so cool. The closest thing I have found was CORR, Championship Off Road Racing, on Speed Channel. It is modified trucks on short tracks. It is actually pretty cool except the races are so short. They are like only 15-20 laps. They're almost over before you know it.

I don't see motorcycle racing on much. I know Speed shows it, but I don't seem to find it. I have never actually watched a whole motorcycle race. I've been meaning to if I can see it on Speed.

Sadly I think Skybird is spot on. I've liked it for so long I guess I don't want it to end. Oh well, I do have hockey.

Although, seeing the Red Wings lose the cup left me utterly devastated.

I see Neal posted before I finished my above post. That clip you posted is pretty cool. I've never really watched a motocross race before. I might have to catch the next race.

Geno_Mariner · 07-27-09, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

I agree. Rally racing is so cool. The closest thing I have found was CORR, Championship Off Road Racing, on Speed Channel. It is modified trucks on short tracks. It is actually pretty cool except the races are so short. They are like only 15-20 laps. They're almost over before you know it.

We get Rally racing every now and then, I'm not sure how frequently it's broadcasted on Aussie TV but we do have Rally broadcasts.

Max2147 · 07-28-09, 07:01 PM

I don't know where you are in Michigan, but there are quite a few tracks within driving distance of Michigan that have big races coming up. As SteamWake says, racing is quite different in person - it's a total assault on the senses.

August 1 - Indycar at Kentucky (the track is in Sparta, on the northern edge of the state)
August 8/9 - Indycar and ALMS at Mid-Ohio
August 16 - NASCAR at Michigan (the track is in Brooklyn, SE of Ann Arbor)
August 16 - ALMS at Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin (the Lake Express carferry across Lake Michigan is great)
August 30 - MotoGP at Indianapolis

If I were in the area I'd go to the Mid-Ohio event. ALMS is incredibly fan-friendly, and the wide variety of cars makes it fun to watch. The double-feature with Indycar is really a bonus. To cap it off you have Mid-Ohio itself, which is a great classic road course.

Syxx_Killer · 07-28-09, 07:25 PM

I'm in the Thumb of MI, so even the Brooklyn track is quite a distance away. Maybe someday...

07-29-09, 11:25 AM

How about tractor pulling? If you are into seeing engines blowing up.

07-27-09, 08:33 AM	#1
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	What am I missing? For a long time I thought I liked to watch racing. I liked all sorts of motorsports from F1 to IRL to NASCAR and other series. For a while now, though, I just can't get into it anymore. It has gotten boring to me. It's like watching a type of high speed parade. Road courses don't have much overtaking and oval courses usually turn out the same - if you seen one you seen them all (just who wins seems to change). I'm tired of seeing races won or lost in the pits and a single file progression around the track when watching road courses. It seems as if there is no real "racing" anymore. I don't even bother tracking races anymore. How do you think I could make it interesting again? I'd love to actually go to an event, but they are just too far away.

07-27-09, 08:58 AM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well if you do go to a live event your in for quite a shock. I went to daytona and was amazed as to how different it 'really' is when compared to how its portrayed on television. The cars bounce and sway much more violently, the sound, the smells, you will never look at racing the same again. Now that being said, I think that in a lot of ways parity has led to boring racing. Every one is so equal that they run around bunched up nose to tail till a mistake is made and then they all pile into one another Back to daytona I specifically remember the pack of competetive cars come roaring by, followed a few moments later by the wannabes with misfiring notes putterng by. It was strange there was the A group and then the rest. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

07-27-09, 09:11 AM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Try watching Rallies. Over here they are usually broadcasted at a horrible time but at least they don't get so boring simply because of the driving style (especially on gravel and snow). __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

07-27-09, 02:50 PM	#7
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The answer is simple. Motorbike racing. Formula 1 and car racing in general follow the same trend, which is one long line of cars following each other round for countless laps with maybe the odd overtake and crash. most cars are too large to over take each other on the more technical tracks. Motorcycles on the other hand are small enough to over take each other in the middle of a corner while almost horizontal. Its very fast, very dangerous and very entertaining. Motogp for example has had some nail biting finishes in recent races much like the final race of last years F1. Unlike F1 however this is a regular occurrence in the GP. There are more crashes and as you would expect the bike crashes are more spectacular too Now im a man who loves cars too and basically any sort of engineering. So while i do love motorbikes i would love to see some car racing as intense as the bikes but at the moment its just not happening __________________

07-27-09, 07:13 PM	#9
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	*Motocross* The Speed Channel shows the races weekly on the Nationals circuit (Supercross season just concluded). Now that I can reliably find the race each week (and TIVO it), I have gotten back into MX in a big way. There aren't any chubby, middle-age men racing MX, let me tell you. Other than soccer players, no sport is as physically demanding as MX. These guys are actually athletes, taking incredible punishment from the track, using their bodies to manage the machine, as opposed to sitting on their butts, twisting a wheel. Forget about "drafting", you draft in MX, you get a face full of high-velocity dirt! Next race is Aug 15 at Unadilla. Check it out. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

07-27-09, 09:54 AM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,266 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Stock car racing died for me directly after they stopped using stock cars. The days of old were you raced them Sunday and drove them to work on Monday are long gone. Today it is tubed frames, fiberglass body and a whole bunch of rules. Where is the fun in that?

07-28-09, 07:01 PM	#12
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't know where you are in Michigan, but there are quite a few tracks within driving distance of Michigan that have big races coming up. As SteamWake says, racing is quite different in person - it's a total assault on the senses. August 1 - Indycar at Kentucky (the track is in Sparta, on the northern edge of the state) August 8/9 - Indycar and ALMS at Mid-Ohio August 16 - NASCAR at Michigan (the track is in Brooklyn, SE of Ann Arbor) August 16 - ALMS at Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin (the Lake Express carferry across Lake Michigan is great) August 30 - MotoGP at Indianapolis If I were in the area I'd go to the Mid-Ohio event. ALMS is incredibly fan-friendly, and the wide variety of cars makes it fun to watch. The double-feature with Indycar is really a bonus. To cap it off you have Mid-Ohio itself, which is a great classic road course.

07-28-09, 07:25 PM	#13
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I'm in the Thumb of MI, so even the Brooklyn track is quite a distance away. Maybe someday...

07-29-09, 11:25 AM	#14
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	How about tractor pulling? If you are into seeing engines blowing up.