Its all our (US) fault !

Stealth Hunter · 07-21-09, 01:07 AM

Well played, Max.

SteamWake · 07-21-09, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Don't know about legislation but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ons_per_capita

This is the type of thing I find. No where is it called out whom has the 'tightest' regulations on emissions. Just lists on 'quantitys of emissions' most of which are not broken down per capita making the US stand out like a sore thumb.

As to regulatory actions by nation its just not documented in such a manner. However I stand by my claim that United States take more steps, spend more money, have more regulations regarding emission standards than any other nation on earth. I know people whom work in the oil industry and the anicdotes I've heard would make your jaw drop. What other nation has 'fuel blends' based not only on which state the fuel is going to but also based on season?

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can disprove them. Its quite curious how difficult it is to quantify this claim. I'm sure if someone could have they would have by now.

Again all I come accross is quantitys of emissions nothing regarding regulatory requirements by nation.

Max2147 · 07-21-09, 09:31 AM

If you can't quantify or back up your claim, you probably shouldn't make the claim in the first place.

SteamWake · 07-21-09, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Well at least you're being honest in saying that you make unsubstantiated claims, I guess that a plus for you.
But, given that the US per capita emissions are in the top 10 highest it's safe to say that no matter the level of regulations (that you don't know about), it's not that tight.

LOL indeed in the top ten... number 10 in fact ! But this cuts off at 2004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ons_per_capita

Someone needs to get on Qatar's case :rotfl:

Hey look Canada beat us !

Number 10 for the largest industrialized nation on earth is pretty good I would think.

SteamWake · 07-21-09, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

It's "per capita", it has nothing to do with the size of a nation. Your emissions are twice as high as those of the UK or Germany, and 3 times higher than those of Italy Spain and France. Now you can always take the worse as a reference and say "we're not that bad", but anyway your claims aren't better off.

Last time I checked the US has a few more citizens that the UK or Germany. Sorry I dont have a link to substantiate that but again I believe it to be true.

Furthermore I do believe the industrial output in the US is a good deal greater than the mentioned EU countrys at least for the time being. Im pretty sure thats factual as well.

I did note the abscence of chunks of data from a 'comprable' nation such as Russia. Also again I noticed it cuts off at 2004, why?

Max2147 · 07-21-09, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Last time I checked the US has a few more citizens that the UK or Germany. Sorry I dont have a link to substantiate that but again I believe it to be true.

Furthermore I do believe the industrial output in the US is a good deal greater than the mentioned EU countrys at least for the time being. Im pretty sure thats factual as well.

I did note the abscence of chunks of data from a 'comprable' nation such as Russia. Also again I noticed it cuts off at 2004, why?

Russia is on there, down in 30th place. Their number is about half of ours. China is in 91st place, with a number less than 20% of ours.

SteamWake · 07-21-09, 10:41 AM

Ah I see what they did now Russia has been 'split' in two one for russia and another for the soviet union. Isnt that cute :rotfl:

Max2147 · 07-21-09, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Ah I see what they did now Russia has been 'split' in two one for russia and another for the soviet union. Isnt that cute :rotfl:

What does that have to do with the data?

Letum · 07-21-09, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

I stand by my claim that United States take more steps, spend more money, have more regulations regarding emission standards than any other nation on earth.

[...]

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can disprove them.

I can disprove them if I stick to your standards.

In May 2008 over 8.3 billion scientists agreed at a 2 day summit in
Luxembourg that the USA did not have the world's tightest emission
controls.

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can
disprove them.

SteamWake · 07-21-09, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

I can disprove them if I stick to your standards.

In May 2008 over 8.3 billion scientists agreed at a 2 day summit in
Luxembourg that the USA did not have the world's tightest emission
controls.

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can
disprove them.

Linkage ? :rotfl:

8.3 billion might be a tad excessive.

07-21-09, 10:41 AM	#7
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ah I see what they did now Russia has been 'split' in two one for russia and another for the soviet union. Isnt that cute :rotfl: __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

07-21-09, 01:07 AM	#1
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Well played, Max.

07-21-09, 09:31 AM	#3
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you can't quantify or back up your claim, you probably shouldn't make the claim in the first place.