Its all our (US) fault !

SteamWake · 07-19-09, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

I'm highly skeptical of that.

Really? Okay who does regulate emissions stronger than the US ?

breadcatcher101 · 07-19-09, 10:48 AM

America has indeed made many mistakes in her past.

The latest one was in electing him as president.

Letum · 07-19-09, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Really? Okay who does regulate emissions stronger than the US ?

Holland.

mookiemookie · 07-19-09, 11:33 AM

Saying America has never made a mistake is pretty arrogant.

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Originally Posted by Steam Wake

I might also point out that the US has the tightest regulations and have spent more money and effort to reduce emissioins than any other country on eatrh.

As they say on Wikipedia: [citation needed]

SteamWake · 07-20-09, 02:17 PM

Holland :rotfl:

Meh ...India isnt having anything to do with it anyhow.

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“There is simply no case for the pressure that we, who have been among the lowest emissions per capita, face to actually reduce emissions,” Jairam Ramesh, India’s environment minister told Mrs Clinton. “And as if this pressure was not enough, we also face the threat of carbon tariffs on our exports to countries such as yours.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/741cc2f0-7...44feabdc0.html

Stealth Hunter · 07-20-09, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Really? Okay who does regulate emissions stronger than the US ?

Before we delve into this any further, where did you find your reference for the claim that "the US has the tightest regulations and has spent more money and effort to reduce emissioins than any other country on eatrh"?

Out of curiosity, have you ever downloaded the Google Toolbar for your Internet browser? It comes with a spellchecker.

SteamWake · 07-20-09, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Before we delve into this any further, where did you find your reference for the claim that "the US has the tightest regulations and has spent more money and effort to reduce emissioins than any other country on eatrh"?

Out of curiosity, have you ever downloaded the Google Toolbar for your Internet browser? It comes with a spellchecker.

How about this, you prove me wrong. I tried to do a little searching and found it very very difficult to get past global warming propaganda and find actual facts. Only thing I keep getting is how the US leads in Co2 emissions

But call it a gut feeling in the meantime. Its the reason we are so dependant on forigen oil, cannot build nuclear facilitys, why cars are so damn expensive, and industrys scramble to comply with these 'lax' requiements often finding it financially un-sustainable and shut their doors.

In the meantime I dont really give a crap about my bad spelling in a forum.

mookiemookie · 07-20-09, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

How about this, you prove me wrong.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.

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I tried to do a little searching and found it very very difficult to get past actual facts and find something that backs up my wild assertation.

Fixed that for you.

SteamWake · 07-20-09, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.
.

Nah not really its not worth my time. Just pass it off as a 'wild accusation'.

SUBMAN1 · 07-20-09, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you....

Wrong!!! You are the one that challenged that assertion. You should be the one putting your money where your mouth is.

Why is everyone so backwards here when it comes to crap like this? Are you all just too lazy to bring something to the table? I imagine a bunch of opinionated fat people sitting around a computer challenging something without wanting to put the effort in.

-S

SUBMAN1 · 07-20-09, 08:45 PM

And since I'm at it, I'm deeply concerned about our president running around and telling the world that we are bad people. He is running around to Arabs and telling them that we are in the wrong and they are in the right. Now this! He is making people that hate us hate us worse for no reason!

WTH is he up to?

-S

mookiemookie · 07-20-09, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Wrong!!! You are the one that challenged that assertion. You should be the one putting your money where your mouth is.

Why is everyone so backwards here when it comes to crap like this? Are you all just too lazy to bring something to the table? I imagine a bunch of opinionated fat people sitting around a computer challenging something without wanting to put the effort in.

-S

The sky is polka dotted.

By your logic, I'm right. Assertions pulled out of someone's ass aren't taken as fact.

SUBMAN1 · 07-20-09, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

The sky is polka dotted.

By your logic, I'm right. Assertions pulled out of someone's ass aren't taken as fact.

Unless you can back that up, I disregard your allegations.

-S

Letum · 07-20-09, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Wrong!!! You are the one that challenged that assertion. You should be the one putting your money where your mouth is.

If I make an assertion:
"There is a invisible unicorn in my garden."
And you challenge that assertion:
"Unicorns don't exist; there can not be on in your garden"
Where do you think the burden of proof is?
If it is with "the one that challenged that assertion", then good looking
finding the invisible unicorn; it is very, very small.

The burden of proof is always with the person who makes the assertion.
If someone challenges him, it is up to person who makes the assertion
to prove them wrong, not the other way around.

It is up to me to prove I have a unicorn, not up to you to prove I don't.

Stealth Hunter · 07-21-09, 12:18 AM

No need to get worked up about Subman, guys. It appears that I've misjudged him in the past. He really does know nothing about intelligent debates or what makes them so. I gave him more credit than he deserves. Furthermore, why don't we all just disregard what he posts? Maybe then he'll go away lol.

As it stands, I'm still waiting for a citation, SteamWake.

07-20-09, 08:45 PM	#11
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And since I'm at it, I'm deeply concerned about our president running around and telling the world that we are bad people. He is running around to Arabs and telling them that we are in the wrong and they are in the right. Now this! He is making people that hate us hate us worse for no reason! WTH is he up to? -S __________________

07-19-09, 10:48 AM	#2
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	America has indeed made many mistakes in her past. The latest one was in electing him as president.

07-21-09, 12:18 AM	#15
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	No need to get worked up about Subman, guys. It appears that I've misjudged him in the past. He really does know nothing about intelligent debates or what makes them so. I gave him more credit than he deserves. Furthermore, why don't we all just disregard what he posts? Maybe then he'll go away lol. As it stands, I'm still waiting for a citation, SteamWake.