Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Oh my geez even on this forum there are idiot birthers? Geez you guys serious need a life outside of tea parties.

But my daughters like tea parties

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by Platapus

One 20th century President never used his middle name.

Harry S Truman.

Nah, Truman used his full middle name all the time! In fact, he's the only President I can think of who was routinely referred to with his full middle name.

[August]

Originally Posted by Max2147

As you said, it's good that people dig deeper. In this case, Obama released that document, people did the digging by calling up the Hawaii authorities, and found the truth - that Obama's document is a valid birth certificate.

Yes it is a valid birth certificate. but it is not the original birth certificate. It is a replacement document made within the last few years which was passed off as the original document. That is imo what keeps the controversy alive, not

Now I personally think the whole issue is just a distraction from Obamas true faults, but a photocopy of the original document would put this whole issue to bed and embarrass the Republicans in one fell swoop.

One has to wonder why the Dems don't take advantage of such a huge opportunity to score points against their political opposition.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He has a point. Personally, I'm not satisfied with the paperwork produced showing citizenship of Obama. I believe I'm not alone.

You aren't. Even the Supreme court asked for it and he weaseled his way out of that one somehow. Talk about brushing it under the rug!

-S

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You aren't. Even the Supreme court asked for it and he weaseled his way out of that one somehow. Talk about brushing it under the rug!

-S

And when did the Supreme Court do that?

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by August

Yes it is a valid birth certificate. but it is not the original birth certificate. It is a replacement document made within the last few years which was passed off as the original document. That is imo what keeps the controversy alive, not

Now I personally think the whole issue is just a distraction from Obamas true faults, but a photocopy of the original document would put this whole issue to bed and embarrass the Republicans in one fell swoop.

One has to wonder why the Dems don't take advantage of such a huge opportunity to score points against their political opposition.

They can't really embarrass the Republicans on this one because the Republicans aren't talking about it. I'm not aware of any prominent Republican officials who have said that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

And when did the Supreme Court do that?

At the mad hatters tea party.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Max2147

They can't really embarrass the Republicans on this one because the Republicans aren't talking about it. I'm not aware of any prominent Republican officials who have said that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

That's true, but I think August was referring to the more extreme Republicans. Considering that both parties have a propensity to characterize the opposition essentially as bloated caricatures of the extremes, I also find it odd that Obama doesn't just come out and settle the issue.

That being said, although I do believe that it is a non-issue I'm not surprised that it's come up time and again. It reminds me of the way the fringe lefties grabbed on to Dan Rather's story about Bush and the National Guard.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

At the mad hatters tea party.

Points at Tribesman's avatar and laughs

Yea I know itll change soon but got to get it while the getting is good.

I guess this was going to be a little too close for comfort. Phone calls were made and now the colonel no longer has standing to view Mr. Obama's rcords. The things which make you say Hmmmmmmmmmm.



"Can you imagine what are the consequences? This is disastrous" for the administration, she said. "We'll have no military. Because anytime any Soldier, any Sailor, any Airman does not want to follow any orders, all he has to do is call an attorney and say 'I don't want to follow this order because I question the legitimacy of the commander in chief.' "


http://www.military.com/news/article...=1186032310810

[Max2147]

Which colonel are you talking about? The only colonel I see in that article is the Army spokeswoman. That quote came from the walking ego (i.e. lawyer) that the shirker is using.

Originally Posted by Max2147

Which colonel are you talking about? The only colonel I see in that article is the Army spokeswoman. That quote came from the walking ego (i.e. lawyer) that the shirker is using.

My mistake, the major who brought the complaint. But you knew what I meant, no? Its the precedent which matters here, and of course mr. Obama's continued suppression of documents.