Strange air activity June'43

Hanomag · 07-10-09, 12:02 PM

Welcome Aboard Herr Kaluen!!!

tomfon · 07-10-09, 01:58 PM

@Flippo84
Try to avoid attacking a ship or a convoy when a task force is nearby. Instead, surface the boat and follow the ship at the edge of visual range. Plot its course and then outflank it. Move to an attack position and go to periscope depth. Launch two torpedoes to guarantee the sinking of the ship and then leave immediately. Thats what i sometimes used to do but it didn't always work, unfortunately.

And as in real life, things n SH3 don't always go as planned. That, may be the only similarity the simulator has with real life.

Welcome.

meduza · 07-10-09, 03:37 PM

Welcome aboard, Her Kaleun!

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Better luck next time!

Jimbuna · 07-10-09, 04:17 PM

Welcome aboard Flippo84

Flippo84 · 07-10-09, 04:38 PM

Thanks for the warm entry

Just freed myself out of war captivity and set sail to La Rochelle to assume a new command

Just want to become a feeling of '43 - '45 with GWX 3.0, before starting a new carrier when being sunk. However, this was the first boat I lost during this carieer. Everybody should be given a 2nd chance.

This time I didn't touch a ship when a task group was close. Radar on the enemy escorts was quite hard. Just tryed to get ahead of the convoy, wich failed serveral times - thanks to very nice weather and radar. When I tryed to catch a look at the convoy's formation and juicy targets on surface, they got me anytime with radar (moderate visibility ~10km with 16k mod). Perhaps it's better while good visibility. The radar seem to have a radius of 8-9km, more for aircraft.

After arriving at the convoy's top I went down to 240m and sacked(?) into the convoy, but ended up in a bad position and was able to fire only one eel. Luckly I hit the tanker and he was forced to stop. Then I finished him in an end run but was catched up by a plane again after the sinking (91% pressure hull). Decided to carry on.

Sunk two more ore carriers after managing to slip twords one of the lead escorts and the side guard during heavy fog. It was very close, nearly the complete front of the convoy was ASDIC shielded. Even my only acustic eel wich sunk the lead escort didn't prevent them from building a new line of defense. I stopped penetrating the convoy at about 200 km to the canadian cost in expectation of more air support for the convoy defense. Went home and again had a peace and joyful little summer cruise in the biscaya without any allied aircraft

I forced me to observe the air above me before surfacing, this time. Safed my men after finishing the tanker. Good piece of advice

Has anybody developed a tactic to get information about the convoy's formation and the desireable targets in it without getting picked up by destroyers radar? Observing it via attack scope while submerged didn't work good for me, because of speed and noise issues.

Lt.Fillipidis · 07-11-09, 05:35 AM

What the heck?!
Im mid to late '43 and i only saw 13planes till now.
I actually SEEK them but i find none...

Telgriff · 07-11-09, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

I actually SEEK them but i find none...

Enjoy the peace and quiet. When those buzzards with bombs are about more frequently, it makes things far less pleasant!

meduza · 07-11-09, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flippo84

Has anybody developed a tactic to get information about the convoy's formation and the desireable targets in it without getting picked up by destroyers radar? Observing it via attack scope while submerged didn't work good for me, because of speed and noise issues.

Observing through the periscope is the only safe way late in the war. As you mentioned, the radar range is almost 10km ,which is the same as your visual range at moderate visibility. So if you can see them, their radar can see you. The same goes for their hydrophones if you're making a noise. In 1943 and later, detection usualy means death.

With unlimited visibility you may have a chance to observe the merchants without being detected, especially during the night. But even then it's not easy because the escorts cover a lot of area around the convoy.

I'm currently playing in mid 1944, in Med, where the single merchants are very rare. So most of my sinkings are escorted. To survive I attack from long distance (6-8km), using T1 torpedoes, preferably during the night. The obvious downside of this approach is low accuracy. But practice makes perfection, and I'm able to achieve around 50-75% hits.

The positive side of this is, if done properly, that you are very safe. If you are not detected before, once the torpedoes impact, most the escorts will rush towards the hit ships. Their sweet spot seams to be about 2km from the nearest ship, along the torpedo's track. You can stay at periscope depth and watch the fireworks.

07-10-09, 12:02 PM	#1
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07-10-09, 01:58 PM	#2
tomfon Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CK7662 Posts: 918 Downloads: 178 Uploads: 4	@Flippo84 Try to avoid attacking a ship or a convoy when a task force is nearby. Instead, surface the boat and follow the ship at the edge of visual range. Plot its course and then outflank it. Move to an attack position and go to periscope depth. Launch two torpedoes to guarantee the sinking of the ship and then leave immediately. Thats what i sometimes used to do but it didn't always work, unfortunately. And as in real life, things n SH3 don't always go as planned. That, may be the only similarity the simulator has with real life. Welcome. __________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned." - Richard P. Feynman [1918/1988] "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan "You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays... There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it." - Greg Popovich Mods for SH3

07-10-09, 03:37 PM	#3
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard, Her Kaleun! Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Better luck next time! __________________

07-10-09, 04:17 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,661 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard Flippo84 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-10-09, 04:38 PM	#5
Flippo84 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the warm entry Just freed myself out of war captivity and set sail to La Rochelle to assume a new command Just want to become a feeling of '43 - '45 with GWX 3.0, before starting a new carrier when being sunk. However, this was the first boat I lost during this carieer. Everybody should be given a 2nd chance. This time I didn't touch a ship when a task group was close. Radar on the enemy escorts was quite hard. Just tryed to get ahead of the convoy, wich failed serveral times - thanks to very nice weather and radar. When I tryed to catch a look at the convoy's formation and juicy targets on surface, they got me anytime with radar (moderate visibility ~10km with 16k mod). Perhaps it's better while good visibility. The radar seem to have a radius of 8-9km, more for aircraft. After arriving at the convoy's top I went down to 240m and sacked(?) into the convoy, but ended up in a bad position and was able to fire only one eel. Luckly I hit the tanker and he was forced to stop. Then I finished him in an end run but was catched up by a plane again after the sinking (91% pressure hull). Decided to carry on. Sunk two more ore carriers after managing to slip twords one of the lead escorts and the side guard during heavy fog. It was very close, nearly the complete front of the convoy was ASDIC shielded. Even my only acustic eel wich sunk the lead escort didn't prevent them from building a new line of defense. I stopped penetrating the convoy at about 200 km to the canadian cost in expectation of more air support for the convoy defense. Went home and again had a peace and joyful little summer cruise in the biscaya without any allied aircraft I forced me to observe the air above me before surfacing, this time. Safed my men after finishing the tanker. Good piece of advice Has anybody developed a tactic to get information about the convoy's formation and the desireable targets in it without getting picked up by destroyers radar? Observing it via attack scope while submerged didn't work good for me, because of speed and noise issues.

07-11-09, 05:35 AM	#6
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	What the heck?! Im mid to late '43 and i only saw 13planes till now. I actually SEEK them but i find none...