Ireland bans free speech and free religion.

Tchocky · 07-10-09, 04:14 AM

A farce, that was.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...250388598.html

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In an electronic vote whereby Senators press a button, the Government was defeated by 22 votes to 21 in the 60-member upper house. However, Fianna Fáil whip Diarmuid Wilson immediately requested a walk-through vote which takes about 10 minutes to complete. In that period two Senators, Geraldine Feeney of Fianna Fáil and Deirdre De Burca of the Green Party, had time to get to the chamber and the amendment was defeated by 23 votes to 22. The Bill itself was then passed by the same margin.

Skybird · 07-10-09, 04:54 AM

Planned and partially realised EU legislation includes that criticism of religion gets prevented by claiming it is a hate crime, which religious critics could be sued and sentenced for. This was done after immense lobbying to enforce tolerance and support for foreign migration, leaving no other choice to people critical of it than to actively support it. Passive objection to it is illegal, and you can get punished for it.

The church had not much to object, though. It takes the benefit from it, and smiles.

EU sucks. The few reasonable acts it gets together cannot compensate for the massive damages it causes. To hell with it.

07-10-09, 03:36 PM

I feel badly for you in Europe concerning this issue. The reason is that those that disagree with the policy have little to no recourse in the matter. Having watched the EU at a distance, it seems to me that when the population votes against something the powers 'that be' inevetably nullify the vote and move the issue among themselves. Am I wrong about my analysis? If so let me know.

Anyway my original thought stands...I feel badly for you.

Thomen · 07-10-09, 03:58 PM

Reading a bit further about this, it seems that they basically replace one un-enforceable law with another one.

From the comments:

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Since every religion’s basic doctrine blasphemes against at least one other religion, Irish atheists now just have to shut up until the theists have all locked each other away, and then there’ll be nobody left to be offended!

07-14-09, 07:51 PM

Yet more lolchristians, banning free speech.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...nsorship_N.htm

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VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) — Lithuania's Parliament on Tuesday approved a censorship bill that aims to keep information about homosexuality away from children, angering gay rights activists who called the measure homophobic.

Basically you can't even say anything about gays there.

What's next? Italy legalizes burning non-christians at the stake?

07-14-09, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

Yet more lolchristians, banning free speech.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...nsorship_N.htm

Basically you can't even say anything about gays there.

What's next? Italy legalizes burning non-christians at the stake?

Can't say anything about criminal organiztions masquerading as religion, Islam, Scientology. Wait, that is what this is all about.....nevermind.

07-14-09, 08:07 PM

So much for the ban on free speech and criticising religion.
Tommy Tiernan kicked off the Galway arts festival with a rant insulting just about every religion and denomination you can think of.

Tchocky · 07-15-09, 02:12 AM

Get to see Tommy?

Lucky sod

07-10-09, 04:54 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,650 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Planned and partially realised EU legislation includes that criticism of religion gets prevented by claiming it is a hate crime, which religious critics could be sued and sentenced for. This was done after immense lobbying to enforce tolerance and support for foreign migration, leaving no other choice to people critical of it than to actively support it. Passive objection to it is illegal, and you can get punished for it. The church had not much to object, though. It takes the benefit from it, and smiles. EU sucks. The few reasonable acts it gets together cannot compensate for the massive damages it causes. To hell with it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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07-10-09, 03:36 PM	#3
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I feel badly for you in Europe concerning this issue. The reason is that those that disagree with the policy have little to no recourse in the matter. Having watched the EU at a distance, it seems to me that when the population votes against something the powers 'that be' inevetably nullify the vote and move the issue among themselves. Am I wrong about my analysis? If so let me know. Anyway my original thought stands...I feel badly for you.

07-14-09, 08:07 PM	#7
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	So much for the ban on free speech and criticising religion. Tommy Tiernan kicked off the Galway arts festival with a rant insulting just about every religion and denomination you can think of.