KMS Bismarck and KMS Prinz Eugen '41 Skins [DOWNLOAD]56kwrn - Page 4

Syxx_Killer · 07-14-05, 02:23 PM

I like the second one better, too. When you were doing your research on the ship, did you see anything about why they painted over the camo but not the bow wave? Also, is there any evidence the stern wave may have been left in place, too?

Type941 · 07-14-05, 03:00 PM

I like the last version as well - more lighter one. The bow wave was kept, the stern wasn't. The reason it's here is because SH3 uses the same wave on both ends - in fact, if "W" is the wave texture, the mapping of the SH3 Bismark's hull looks like this:

\==WW=====================W==|

Wulfmann · 07-14-05, 06:43 PM

They are all so good I would be haapy with any.. Your work, should be your choice.
Wulfmann

Type941 · 07-14-05, 07:11 PM

I'll release a separate bismarck only pack that will contain the 3 skins: Reworked Denmark Strait Battle skin, Baltic Skin (repositioned portholes, not so rusty) and also a light gray/white skin for pre-war colors. So 3 Bismarcks, you will chose which one you like!

1940

1941 - Baltic

1941 - final

Syxx_Killer · 07-14-05, 09:10 PM

I am literally foaming at the mouth for these. I look forward to them!

Would it be possible in any way to reverse the "arrow" on the SH3 model? In real life it was pointing towards the stern. I also noticed the other "ribbons" are facing forward as well and not rearward like in SH3. I know it is rather minor.

CCIP · 07-14-05, 10:03 PM

Ohh, shiny

Awesome job. The 3rd skin is really quite something. You've really been going to every length for this project, hats off

Jace11 · 07-14-05, 10:27 PM

Ship hull tga files have an alpha layer. When I removed the stripes off bismarck a while ago, I made a black and white version, put a gradient on the hull section I had altered and put it as an alpha in the tga, so it looked right, but I was never certain why the hull tgas have alphas. Is it something to do with shadow casting and lighting effects. I notice some class have more hull "effects" than others.

Anyway, just wondered if anyone knew. I presume it is not to do with the black damage effect that can appear...?

Type941 · 07-15-05, 05:28 AM

Yes, alpha is for shadow enhancement. it has to be made for best effect, but it's not very prominent if it's missing some elements (like portholes, or camo).

Regarding stripes alignment - I don't know, if Ubisoft made this glaring mistake on purpose... Were they afraid of some Kriegsmarine copyrights?!

But it's impossible to align them properly without making disturbing changes to the superstructure. Basically, I won't do it, and this screenshot should explain what's wrong with replacing them.

I've got the 1940 version done as well and bit better than previous shot. Light gray hull.

And the good news is I've made Tirpitz also in 2 versions. I only picked the early war one because the later version had AA guns on turrettops, etc, so the early war version is more accurate. I think you'll be happy, even though the full camo version is not entirerly accurate, again, due to texturing in SH3. It still gives a good impression imho.

Tirpitz 41

Tirpitz 42

joea · 07-15-05, 06:27 AM

Dude!!!!

All we need is S and G and a pocket battleship or two!

Syxx_Killer · 07-15-05, 08:07 AM

Ok, I see about the Bismarck camo. That alright. At least it is there in the first place.

The Tirpitz looks amazing!

Jace11 · 07-15-05, 08:12 AM

i got a bismarck rec manual plate minus stripes that i use if you want.

Type941 · 07-15-05, 08:52 AM

Jace, may be upload it to rapidshare and we post a link for all those interested in having one in addition to the ship (i'm using all standard plates though).

Jace11 · 07-15-05, 09:00 AM

Goes in SH3/Data/SEA/BISMARK

http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...C1KR0WYYH17UH7

Wulfmann · 07-15-05, 10:15 AM

Tirpitz looks super.

But, I do not have any picture or drawing like that. 1942 was as above drawing and pictures support that.

Of, course she could have been repainted like you have it in between the pics I have. I also have a 1944 camo drawing of her I can scan.

I must wonder if doing the Rosselsprung camo is possible as it goes from WL to high in the superstructure.
Wulfmann

Type941 · 07-15-05, 10:36 AM

Tirpitz I made is something like the 2 below. I won't bother with it anymore, because it's impossible to make it perfect due to texturing problems. Tirpitz isn't a priority for me anyway, and if someone wants to make it better, I'm sure they can.

1943, Opertaion "RÃ¶sselsprung" Paint Scheme I (September 1942 - July 1943)

If you want to use the more accurate Tirpitz skin, use the one with only black bow/stern bits. The Camouflage of "RÃ¶sselsprung" is very complicated and is different on the sides, as presented in images above.

If you are referring to this one:

- I am not sure I am gonna do it..

07-14-05, 03:00 PM	#47
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I like the last version as well - more lighter one. The bow wave was kept, the stern wasn't. The reason it's here is because SH3 uses the same wave on both ends - in fact, if "W" is the wave texture, the mapping of the SH3 Bismark's hull looks like this: \==WW=====================W==\| __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

07-14-05, 06:43 PM	#48
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	They are all so good I would be haapy with any.. Your work, should be your choice. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

07-14-05, 07:11 PM	#49
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'll release a separate bismarck only pack that will contain the 3 skins: Reworked Denmark Strait Battle skin, Baltic Skin (repositioned portholes, not so rusty) and also a light gray/white skin for pre-war colors. So 3 Bismarcks, you will chose which one you like! 1940 1941 - Baltic 1941 - final __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

07-14-05, 10:03 PM	#51
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Ohh, shiny Awesome job. The 3rd skin is really quite something. You've really been going to every length for this project, hats off __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-15-05, 05:28 AM	#53
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes, alpha is for shadow enhancement. it has to be made for best effect, but it's not very prominent if it's missing some elements (like portholes, or camo). Regarding stripes alignment - I don't know, if Ubisoft made this glaring mistake on purpose... Were they afraid of some Kriegsmarine copyrights?! But it's impossible to align them properly without making disturbing changes to the superstructure. Basically, I won't do it, and this screenshot should explain what's wrong with replacing them. I've got the 1940 version done as well and bit better than previous shot. Light gray hull. And the good news is I've made Tirpitz also in 2 versions. I only picked the early war one because the later version had AA guns on turrettops, etc, so the early war version is more accurate. I think you'll be happy, even though the full camo version is not entirerly accurate, again, due to texturing in SH3. It still gives a good impression imho. Tirpitz 41 Tirpitz 42 __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

07-14-05, 02:23 PM	#46
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I like the second one better, too. When you were doing your research on the ship, did you see anything about why they painted over the camo but not the bow wave? Also, is there any evidence the stern wave may have been left in place, too?

07-14-05, 09:10 PM	#50
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I am literally foaming at the mouth for these. I look forward to them! Would it be possible in any way to reverse the "arrow" on the SH3 model? In real life it was pointing towards the stern. I also noticed the other "ribbons" are facing forward as well and not rearward like in SH3. I know it is rather minor.

07-14-05, 10:27 PM	#52
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Ship hull tga files have an alpha layer. When I removed the stripes off bismarck a while ago, I made a black and white version, put a gradient on the hull section I had altered and put it as an alpha in the tga, so it looked right, but I was never certain why the hull tgas have alphas. Is it something to do with shadow casting and lighting effects. I notice some class have more hull "effects" than others. Anyway, just wondered if anyone knew. I presume it is not to do with the black damage effect that can appear...?

07-15-05, 06:27 AM	#54
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Dude!!!! All we need is S and G and a pocket battleship or two!

07-15-05, 08:07 AM	#55
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Ok, I see about the Bismarck camo. That alright. At least it is there in the first place. The Tirpitz looks amazing!

07-15-05, 08:12 AM	#56
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	i got a bismarck rec manual plate minus stripes that i use if you want.

07-15-05, 08:52 AM	#57
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Jace, may be upload it to rapidshare and we post a link for all those interested in having one in addition to the ship (i'm using all standard plates though). __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

07-15-05, 09:00 AM	#58
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Goes in SH3/Data/SEA/BISMARK http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...C1KR0WYYH17UH7

07-15-05, 10:15 AM	#59
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Tirpitz looks super. But, I do not have any picture or drawing like that. 1942 was as above drawing and pictures support that. Of, course she could have been repainted like you have it in between the pics I have. I also have a 1944 camo drawing of her I can scan. I must wonder if doing the Rosselsprung camo is possible as it goes from WL to high in the superstructure. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

07-15-05, 10:36 AM	#60
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Tirpitz I made is something like the 2 below. I won't bother with it anymore, because it's impossible to make it perfect due to texturing problems. Tirpitz isn't a priority for me anyway, and if someone wants to make it better, I'm sure they can. 1943, Opertaion "RÃ¶sselsprung" Paint Scheme I (September 1942 - July 1943) If you want to use the more accurate Tirpitz skin, use the one with only black bow/stern bits. The Camouflage of "RÃ¶sselsprung" is very complicated and is different on the sides, as presented in images above. If you are referring to this one: - I am not sure I am gonna do it.. __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie