Happy Independence Day

Sailor Steve · 07-03-09, 02:33 PM

I've put up this argument myself, two years ago. Last year someone else said it and I applauded and agreed, and posted a link to my old article. It's one of my favorite stories.

I do, however, have to disagree with a couple of the summations and conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Platapus

The Declaration of Independence was not what declared our independence (even back then congress had problems entitling stuff). It was the Lee Resolution. The Declaration of Independence was a document designed to rally support from the citizens on the decision Congress made on 2 July 1776.

Lee proposed his Resolution on June 7, and the Continental Congress agreed that they would vote for independence once they had a proper declaration. So technically you could say that June 7 was the real day. Or June 10, when the 'Committee of Five' was appointed to write the document.

I completely agree that July 2 was the day they actually voted to be Independent, but the statment "The Declaration of Independence was not what declared our independence (even back then congress had problems entitling stuff). It was the Lee Resolution", is emphatically not true. The Lee Resolution proposed independence, but the whole point was to tell the world why we were already fighting (just reread the preamble). The actually declaration (telling the world) was published on July 5, and at the top it held the statement "In Congress, July 4, 1776".

mr chris · 07-03-09, 02:50 PM

We have a American camp on base and they are throwing a party on the beach in camp tomorrow. Im looking forward to my first 4th of July party even if iam English.

Sea Demon · 07-03-09, 05:54 PM

Happy 4th USA. I hope many of my fellow Americans actually take the time this year to understand and reflect on what Independance and Liberty actually means. For all you Americans who value freedom, and have respect for the liberty of others (including their property) I wish you a good day and friendship.

For any far left liberal democrat voters, Obama worshippers, or big government solution types......this is not your holiday. If you want the government to take over responsibility for your health care, or you want an intrusive government tell you and your neighbors what lightbulbs people can use in their homes, you have no business waving little American flags this Saturday.

Platapus · 07-03-09, 06:54 PM

Well that did not take long.

Onkel Neal · 07-03-09, 07:17 PM

Happy Independence Day, red, white, and blue forever!

Letum · 07-03-09, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Happy Independence Day, red, white, and blue forever!

I knew you Americans would come back into the fold one day!

Red, white, and blue forever!

heartc · 07-03-09, 07:37 PM

Happy 4th July and Congrats for a 233 years old Republican Democracy!

Onkel Neal · 07-03-09, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

I knew you Americans would come back into the fold one day!

Red, white, and blue forever!

I tipped my hat just the same

07-03-09, 02:50 PM	#2
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	We have a American camp on base and they are throwing a party on the beach in camp tomorrow. Im looking forward to my first 4th of July party even if iam English. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,375 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well that did not take long. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-03-09, 07:17 PM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Happy Independence Day, red, white, and blue forever! __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

07-03-09, 07:37 PM	#7
heartc Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Munich Posts: 562 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	Happy 4th July and Congrats for a 233 years old Republican Democracy! __________________

07-03-09, 05:54 PM	#3
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Happy 4th USA. I hope many of my fellow Americans actually take the time this year to understand and reflect on what Independance and Liberty actually means. For all you Americans who value freedom, and have respect for the liberty of others (including their property) I wish you a good day and friendship. For any far left liberal democrat voters, Obama worshippers, or big government solution types......this is not your holiday. If you want the government to take over responsibility for your health care, or you want an intrusive government tell you and your neighbors what lightbulbs people can use in their homes, you have no business waving little American flags this Saturday.