His greatest bluff

[SteamWake]

Wether the weapons existed or not all of capitol hill were convinced that they did and they all voted for the action.

To quote John Kerry "I voted for the war before I voted aginst it"

Hindsight is 20 20.

The discovery of mass graves is also overlooked let alone the fact that they were liberated from a tyranical murderous dictator.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Wether the weapons existed or not all of capitol hill were convinced that they did and they all voted for the action.

To quote John Kerry "I voted for the war before I voted aginst it"

Hindsight is 20 20.

The discovery of mass graves is also overlooked let alone the fact that they were liberated from a tyranical murderous dictator.

Your own media called the day when they decided for the war, a day of shame. They allowed to be carried away by emotions and collective hysteria raised by Bush, and voted over a war decision that was wipped through and was not even properly discussed in the house.

It's a great example of a parliament failing it's obligations.

Reasons given for a war in advance, are reasons, and these reasons in this case were intentional lies. Reasons given after a war - are foul excuses.

and finally I wonder why Iraqi mass graves are so close to your heart - if much greater mass graves in other countries, and scattered around Africa, and genocides taking place right now, since years, do not make you call for war, too.

BTW, in Kongo a hot war has broken out again, almost ignorred and not taken note of by media and the public. The ammount of aimed violence against the civilian population is said to be horrific from day one on.

Going there and wage war, anyone? They have precious ores and minerals.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Your own media called the day when they decided for the war, a day of shame. They allowed to be carried away by emotions and collective hysteria raised by Bush, and voted over a war decision that was wipped through and was not even properly discussed in the house.

heh you really expect the media to do otherwise?

"Hysteria raised by Bush"? He did all that by himself? Thats kind of hard to believe.

Now dont get me started on bills or other things not being properly discussed in the house.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

heh you really expect the media to do otherwise?

"Hysteria raised by Bush"? He did all that by himself? Thats kind of hard to believe.

But it was. Planned and brought to paper in the early nineties by Wolfowitz already, wintersleeping through the Clinton years, brought to the top of the agenda by the Bush adminstration when they took over - an Iraq war wanted and decided on long before 9/11, even long before bush came. He just served as the long-awaited henchman, fool that he is.

It was all laid out back then, but if you haven't believed it back then, you will not believe it today, so I leave it to that instead of getting it out of the dusty box once again.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Skybird

But it was. Planned and brought to paper in the early nineties by Wolfowitz already, wintersleeping through the Clinton years, brought to the top of the agenda by the Bush adminstration when they took over - an Iraq war wanted and decided on long before 9/11, even long before bush came. He just served as the long-awaited henchman, fool that he is.

It was all laid out back then, but if you haven't believed it back then, you will not believe it today, so I leave it to that instead of getting it out of the dusty box once again.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/
A very interesting documentary detailing just the origins of the Iraq war.
And it has nothing to with 9/11 or WMD.
The will to attack Iraq dates back as SkyBird said to the early ninties.

[Freiwillige]

Patrick Henry 1775 ~"Give me freedom or give me death!"

George Bush 2003 ~"Give up your freedoms or were all gonna die!"