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[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Morals that are having no fundament in reality, are no morals of any value, Letum. They are ficton only.

I don't claim that morality has any ontological existence, but then neither
does math or subjective experience. Lack of ontological existence isn't
enough of a reason to question the relevance of subjective experience,
math or morality.


No one claims to ask the trivial arrow related questions; "who shot that
poisoned arrow?", "why?" or "from where?". Instead, one claims to ask the
non-trivial questions: "did the arrow hit me?", "might it have been
poisoned?" and "will pulling it out do more damage than the poison
might?".

In broader cases that you might chose to make the Arrow story appear
analogous to, the non-trivial questions are rarely so simple to answer as
"did the arrow hit me?", "might it have been poisoned?" and "will pulling it
out do more damage than the poison might?". No wider argument
can be deconstructed to a state where it becomes directly analogous to
the poisoned arrow.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

INo wider argument
can be deconstructed to a state where it becomes directly analogous to
the poisoned arrow.

Oh my, Letum...

There is no argument that is to be deconstructed, and heaven knows why you do that so obsessively nevertheless. It's just a small story with a point. That is all. No indepth explanation of the universe. No onthologic mysteries. No abstract mind puzzles. No start for a mental voyage into the inner middle of abstractness itself. Just a simple story with a single simple point, just that, not more, not less. Take it as what it is, or don't.

Sometimes a stone - is simply just that, a stone.


Just stop to make all things always so complicated that are not complicated at all!

[Aramike]

Morals that are having no fundament in reality, are no morals of any value, Letum. They are ficton only. Either you have functioning ways to adress the challenges of the reality we live in, or you have not. That simple. and that is simply the basic of what you call "my mysticism". Don't see spooky things where there are none. don't make things more complicated than they are.

This sums it up quite nicely, I think.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sometimes a stone - is simply just that, a stone.

Just stop to make all things always so complicated that are not complicated at all!

The world is far more complex than I, or anyone else, could ever make it appear.
Telling a former geologist that a stone is "simply just a stone" may be the ideal case in point.

If your world is simple, it is the reflection of an internal, not external, simplicity.

[Skybird]

Don't make things more complicated than they are. Just that. And sometimes things are simply simple, really. Reflecting is all nice and well, but if you give it too much space, it paralyses you, and kills ypour degrees of freedom. You can't act then, and you can't acchieve an effect anymore. I have been meditation teacher for years, and saw plenty of this: crazy thinkers who did not had their thinking under control, or crazy dreamers who spend all day sitting on a cushion, thinking that would develope their spirituality and mind. The first have their brain already blowing up whenever you have a sharp look at them, the latter are living zombies who only move if you call and fix a date three days ahead. Believe me, I know what I speak of!

[Letum]

Speak for your self.
If thought and reflection paralyze you, then by all means think only simple
thoughts; you are exceptionally good at it. It is to the great benefit of
mankind that not everyone suffers so greatly when using their rational
faculties, as has been your experience.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

Speak for your self.
If thought and reflection paralyze you, then by all means think only simple
thoughts; you are exceptionally good at it. It is to the great benefit of
mankind that not everyone suffers so greatly when using their rational
faculties, as has been your experience.

I did not say that reflection paralyses me or you or everybody. I said that too much reflection paralyses.

If your thoughts really would be as rational or reasonable as you claim, then I wonder why so very, very often you depend on bringing your examples to extremes of abstractness and pushing them to the edge of hairsplitting. Not so much the above, although there you answer to something that nobody said, but generally.

Stop! Relax. Take a deep breath. Start again two gears down.

[CaptainHaplo]

Whats the problem here? If a person wants to put themselves in harms way, thats their choice. There is no guarantee a pirate bullet won't take them out - regardless of any security detachment. Or - as I told my guys more than once:

"Its not the bullet with your name on it that you have to worry about. Its all the ones marked "To whom it may concern" that scare the devil outta me" - and no thats not original - I forget where I heard it.

As for the taking of human life - if someone chooses to commit an act they know to be illegal for personal gain, knowingly endangering the life of their victims - as pirates (and other terrorists) by necessity do, then they have revoked their own claim to "due process" and human dignity, and I see no problem with slaughtering them as I would any other animal.

[Onkel Neal]

This whole situation reminds me of Charles Bronson and Death Wish. Here was a man who had his life destroyed by criminals. He decided to go out on the city and if anyone attacked him, he would give them a little surprise. It was very risky for him, but he could not live like a victim any longer. As long as no one molested him, there was no drama.

Yeah, I know it's just a movie. But there is a point.

[Task Force]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

This whole situation reminds me of Charles Bronson and Death Wish. Here was a man who had his life destroyed by criminals. He decided to go out on the city and if anyone attacked him, he would give them a little surprise. It was very risky for him, but he could not live like a victim any longer. As long as no one molested him, there was no drama.

Yeah, I know it's just a movie. But there is a point.

And a very good movie at that...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

This whole situation reminds me of Charles Bronson and Death Wish. Here was a man who had his life destroyed by criminals. He decided to go out on the city and if anyone attacked him, he would give them a little surprise. It was very risky for him, but he could not live like a victim any longer. As long as no one molested him, there was no drama.

Yeah, I know it's just a movie. But there is a point.

Yes, there is.

Since you bring in movies, there is another reference that I like, a quote:

"It's not who I am underneath but what I do that defines me."

And that is valid in good and bad.